Umm.. there are literally 100s of small Android phones:
https://www.productchart.com/smartphones/small_android_phone...
I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone
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#612Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In the real world, billions of people earn a very nice living making niche products. But rarely something as expensive to create as a smart phone.
Really? Because things like cabriolet cars, speciality cars, high-end audio equipment, luxury furniture and many others exist. If anything, mobile phone market is exceedingly horrible because of consolidation into a single product with not much choice.
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#613I won't be using/recommending Android as long as it says: > This app you need wants access to all your files and photos. It's ridiculous that it's all or nothing and you cannot have more control than that.
It depends on the app. Some apps (like Telegram) request it that way. Other apps (like GroupMe) can somehow tap into your photos reel without requesting the full superhuge blanket permission like that. I could be wrong but as I recall that's my experience.
> It depends on the app.
Yes. The problem is that apps have this power. As a user, I should be able to restrict access to certain folders, regardless of what the app requested.
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#614> 4 hours Screen On Time (SOT)
> Unlockable bootloader
> NFC
You could’ve kept things simple and attracted a larger audience by just saying you want a smaller phone.
This reads like an over passionate CS freshman…….
“Dude wouldnt it b cool if it ran Arch Linux”
I’ve rarely heard net positive reviews for phones from no name Chinese brands like One Plus or whatever that thing is.
There just needs to be a smaller modern phone, that’s all. No TTL connectors, no OCAML based user environment.
I promise there are enough frustrated kids and adults in the planet to sign a strictly smaller modern phone petition.
Unfortunately the Smartphone world is pretty dominantly Apple, Google and Samsung.
Hopefully the petition will raise notice, but we all know companies rarely operate this way.
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#615I've just got the galaxy s10e, a phone released 3 years ago, for this reason. The new s22 is also only slightly bigger than it. Samsung seems to now have this form factor as the baseline of their line up, with the top one added extra things that don't matter such as bigger, higher display frame rates and curved edges (whoever came up with this stupid trend needs to go to jail, but it's good that Samsung thinks that's a "feature", so it sells normal screens at a discount)
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#616I’m a long-time small phone Android user. But after the Pixel 5, I have not been able to find a suitable small Android replacement. The Pixel 6 is gigantic, and the Pixel 7 looks like it is also destined to be huge. It’s gotten so bad that I’ve resorted to using an iPhone Mini, biding my time and hoping desperately that some Android OEM would step up. But it’s increasingly clear that a small premium phone is not on t…
Thank you for working on this! I want to be honest, though, and say I think you're missing what the majority of users on this forum want in a small phone.
> Sub 6" display, matching size and design of iPhone 13 Mini
No, bad. What most of us want are the particular set of trade-offs made by phones around 2015. Design wise, that means that you've got to have another hole in the bezel, because there's going to be an earphone jack. That's apparently anathema for modern phones, but probably 90+% of us want it. Again, that's Hacker News specific. I haven't polled the market in general. I just know that I (and many others) won't consider buying your phone unless it has a jack.
Likewise, I have not much interest in a phone with a hole punched in the screen (?!) for a camera or an ugly "notch". I realize this is more controversial, but I don't know the last time I even used a front camera. I think it's more in keeping with the ideal 2015 design to make the bezel just large enough to contain a camera, speakers, light sensor, flash/LED, etc. I would reluctantly buy a phone with a camera hole if it was otherwise acceptable and there was no ideal option on the market.
I'd prefer if the back were completely flat as well, with no camera bump. That's totally just my aesthetic preference though, I don't know how others feel. I think it should be possible to achieve this if we're going back to not worshiping thinness, and making the small phone thicker for the sake of battery life.
I'd also prefer a 16x9 display to whatever Apple is doing now. So much web video is still 16x9.
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#617Earlier quoted context omitted.
Much of that can be chalked down to the fact that Apple doesn't have that many models they actively sell, so the models that they do tend to have way more than any individual Android model, and that the mini is the cheapest iPhone in the 13 line. I know a few people who went for the mini because it was marginally cheaper.
Sorry to post off-topic but I've never heard it before. Does chalking down mean the same thing as chalking up?
Yes, both — writing something with chalk on slate.
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#618I’m a long-time small phone Android user. But after the Pixel 5, I have not been able to find a suitable small Android replacement. The Pixel 6 is gigantic, and the Pixel 7 looks like it is also destined to be huge. It’s gotten so bad that I’ve resorted to using an iPhone Mini, biding my time and hoping desperately that some Android OEM would step up. But it’s increasingly clear that a small premium phone is not on t…
please reverse the order you list the phones in your last image... no reason other than it irks me that the lowest phone in the image is listed highest and vice versa
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#619Shameless plug for the Jelly 2. https://www.unihertz.com/products/jelly-2 It's not a "flagship" but it is fully featured - nothing spared - and half the size of my palm. The screen is just small enough to be too annoying to do anything really distracting on. I have gotten NOTHING but compliments on it since I started using it a month ago (on a reco I picked up here).
> The screen is just small enough to be too annoying to do anything really distracting on I'm a happy user of Jelly 2 for a half year now and I bought it for this single reason. It's fully featured so you can do anything, but the screen is so small that you do it only when there's a real need, so I'm not wasting time staring at the phone for no real reason. Cons: My co-workers make fun of me :) Edit: formatting
I can imagine there will often be comments along the line of „What’s that, a phone for ants?“
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#620Hi Eric, I'm a hardware startup guy myself (our paths have crossed) with the distinction that my own "very specific set of skills" has been honed at smartphone megacompanies and smartphone startups. OSOM, Essential, HTC, Samsung, Apple. I've designed and built a lot of phones. I'm building one now. I think this is a noble effort, I personally prefer pocketable phones too, but I think there are nigh-insurmountable hur…
I suspect that part of the problem is that, as measured by actual purchases, people don't really prioritize small size and displays that much. Look at how long all of the requirement lists posted around these threads are. Some people really want a nice camera, some a headphone jack, some a SD card or big battery etc. I would expect that it's a fact of life in a small phone that you can't fit everything anyone might w…
> Some people really want a nice camera, some a headphone jack, some a SD card or big battery etc
We used to have these things in small form factors. Those of us annoyed by where the big companies forced the direction of development are mostly very aware that things have regressed hard.