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Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4

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Re: Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4

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Post by mikestew »

culopatin wrote: post #594
mikestew wrote: post #193

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Oh, oh, I can answer this, given ownership of a ten year old Leaf ($35K) and a fifteen year old Scion xB/rebadged Toyota Echo ($20K): the $20K car is still going to win in TCO. Because the Leaf already starts out $15K in the hole. That's a lot of oil and coolant changes. That's a lot of brake pads. And those are pretty much the three things an ICE needs done versus BEV. After 100K miles, the Scion needed a $1500 clut…

What range do you get on a 10yo leaf? My GF had to sell hers (2016) because she couldn’t get more than 70mi out of it. Which unless you kill the battery all the way, it gives you anxiety past 25mi one way. In Florida that’s just going to school for her. Getting groceries on the way would’ve put her out of range.

50-60 miles these days. Used to get 100 when it was new, if one didn't have a leadened foot. IOW, yeah, it's a city car at this point. Redmond->Seattle and back is about the limit these days.

Re: Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4

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Post by mixmastamyk »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #581
TulliusCicero wrote: post #573

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Most of the heavily populated places in the bay area are fairly flat, so that's not really a problem. Plus, with ebikes these days, hills just aren't the barrier they used to be. The problem is mostly just infrastructure. Almost no California cities have more than a piddling amount of safe transportation biking support.

These days have little to do with historically. The bay is hemmed in by hills and water. LA is similarly hemmed in, creating a nice bowl that traps pollution. Seattle and Portland are both hilly, you are not at a flat grade. Berlin, Amsterdam, Copenhagen are all flat in contrast. Cities with lots of hills in Europe don’t have as many bikers or biking infrastructure. Eg Lausanne unless you want to go for a jaunt by th…

Good thing we’re talking about ebikes with great torque that make short work of hills, right? LA is ten times less smoggy than when I was a kid, thanks to cleaner cars and no electric vehicles.

Re: Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4

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grecy wrote: post #310
Koshkin wrote: post #112

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Yeah, California is one of the very few places on Earth where you can do that.

I lived in the Yukon, Canada for 4 years, and rode my bike 365 days a year. Yes, even in -40 and beyond temperatures I rode. In fact, Whitehorse has the highest rate of bike ridership in Canada!

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Re: Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4

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Post by mixmastamyk »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #642
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #581

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These days have little to do with historically. The bay is hemmed in by hills and water. LA is similarly hemmed in, creating a nice bowl that traps pollution. Seattle and Portland are both hilly, you are not at a flat grade. Berlin, Amsterdam, Copenhagen are all flat in contrast. Cities with lots of hills in Europe don’t have as many bikers or biking infrastructure. Eg Lausanne unless you want to go for a jaunt by th…

Good thing we’re talking about ebikes with great torque that make short work of hills, right? LA is ten times less smoggy than when I was a kid, thanks to cleaner cars and no electric vehicles.

Should be "also electric vehicles."

Re: Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4

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Post by rubicon33 »

JamilD wrote: post #254
rubicon33 wrote: post #242

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I'll never understand this. You presumably are biking on the street, at best in a bike lane, at worst in the shoulder, and are placing so much confidence in other people to not hit you. Given how SHIT other people are at driving, I have no desire whatsoever to be on a bicycle in front of them.

I wonder how we escape this trap. Cars are 1-2 ton machines that can kill you as a cyclist or pedestrian, and humans are awful at operating them. The solution is therefore apparently to put more of those machines on the road (for self-protection) instead of reducing the risk altogether?

Yea, it's a conundrum. I personally would love nothing more than to cycle to work, but it's not worth the risk of serious injury or death. The only solution I can see is at a city level legislating bicycle only roads which are totally void of vehicles.

Re: Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4

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Post by nikolay »

oblio wrote: post #630
nikolay wrote: post #623

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From the electric motor.

What kind of radiation, exactly? Is it ionizing?

Non-ionizing, but still there are concerns including melatonin disruption as indirect cause of increased cancer rates living near power lines.

Re: Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4

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Post by jfim »

gala8y wrote: post #631
jfim wrote: post #605

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Sure! Let me clean up the code a bit and write a quick post about it, should be able to get it done this weekend.

Great! Enjoy!

Haven't forgotten about you by the way, I actually just got a VOC sensor in the mail about an hour ago. Will get that written up soon! :-)

Re: Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4

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Post by Zanni »

plondon514 wrote: post #569
Zanni wrote: post #422

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Yeah, maybe. It really depends on your use case and the charging you have available to you. If you're mostly going back and forth to work and you can charge there, then definitely yes. If you drive a lot and you don't have access to a convenient Level 3 charger, then probably no. I had my Model S about 18 months before I could get a home charger installed at my townhouse. I spent a lot of time in the Whole Foods park…

Mind sharing the level 3 location?

Are you in Hawaii? It's at the Temple Valley Shopping Center, across from the McDonald's drive-thru.

Re: Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4

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Post by tommoor »

erik_seaberg wrote: post #477
tommoor wrote: post #264

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> in the US the majority of all cars are not parked in a garage or driveway. Source? That seems highly unlikely

The US as a whole is 65% homeowners, but population density drives that down. The Bay Area is below 44%. There are hundreds of thousands of apartments here with street parking where you can find it, or rows of carports in 2–3 story complexes that may or may not be lit but definitely no metered outlets.

Yep, I live in the city – most folks in apartments don't have a car. Id still hazard to say that most cars in America live in a garage or driveway and OP didn't back up their claim so :shrug:

Re: Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4

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Post by jfim »

jfim wrote: post #647
gala8y wrote: post #631

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Great! Enjoy!

Haven't forgotten about you by the way, I actually just got a VOC sensor in the mail about an hour ago. Will get that written up soon! :-)

Took a bit more time than expected, but here we go: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27107037
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