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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Skimming through the comments, it feels like I am reading the same message over and over. I agree with some comments that are pointing out the issue with Anthropics capacity constraints and when Subscription vs Api is appropriate. I would like to point out something else. I have Z.ai subscription and they have a dashboard on my usage. When trying out Openclaw a while ago, I noted something worrying. Its constantly co…

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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Running locally or privately (in the cloud) is the future. Anthropic/OAI will need to recoup (astronomical) training costs and I'm not going to be their bailout plan, especially considering training was done on torrented & copyrighted data anyway. Public model inference quality is almost at SOTA levels, why would anyone pay these VC-subsidized companies even a cent? For a shitty chat interface? Give me a break.

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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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This is a different case - those all have limitations based on human behavior (it's not necessary or possible to constantly be washing your car the entire month when you pay for unlimited washes) - that doesn't exist here. The types of plans available should reflect that reality. If gyms faced a situation where people would go and spend 18 hours working out every day for a month, they would probably change how they b…

"Unlimited" has always been a lie. There is no free lunch. There are always limits. I've had to unwind "unlimited" within startups that oversold. I've been bit by ISPs, storage providers, music streamers, fuckin _Ubers_, now AI subscription services, that all dealt in "unlimited". None of them delivered in the long run. I'd be mad at Anthropic if it weren't for the fact that my experience now can see this sort of thi…

You can both know that "unlimited" means "limited" and also be pissed that they market it as such and try to conceal the actual limits.

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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post #42

Looks like I'm going to be switching to OpenAI. I know the whole "well those are the terms" Stockholm syndrome argument, but no, those weren't the terms when I signed up. If one of the parties decided to unilaterally change terms in any other everyday situation, nobody would think it was acceptable, but we've become so resigned to corporations having enough money to make the law suit them that we think it's moral beh…

I don’t want to ever commit to anyone that I will never change my prices or the conditions I’ll work under so I think it’s fine if they won’t commit to that either.

This one passes the Golden Rule test for me. I treat them as I would have them treat me which is that we both will work with whatever makes economic sense.

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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post #269

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I feel like Anthropic is going down a bad path here with billing things this way. Especially as local LLM continues to develop so fast. I downgraded from my $200 a month plan to my $20 plan and hit limits constantly. I try to use the API access I purchased separately, and it doesn't work with Claude Code (something about the 1 million context requiring extra usage) so I have to use it Continue. Then I get instantly r…

>Especially as local LLM continues to develop so fast. I'm sorry is there anything even close to sonnet, much less opus, that can be run on a 4080? Or 64gb of ram, even slowly?

Look for the current crop of local Mixture of Experts models, where it seems like they've made inroads on the O(n^2) context attention cost problem. Several folks have mentioned Qwen, but there's many more of that ilk. Several of them actually score really high on benchmarks. But when I mess with one of them locally by hand myself, (I have a 3090), it feels a bit like last year's Sonnet. They don't quite make the leaps of understanding you get from Opus.

* Weird thing of the day: https://huggingface.co/Jackrong/Qwen3.5-27B-Claude-4.6-Opus-...

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