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Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by jstimpfle »

lateforwork wrote: post #306

This is a major challenge to Microsoft. A 13-inch Surface Laptop costs $899 [1], that's 50% more than an equivalent MacBook! And even at that higher price the Surface Laptop doesn't have a good screen: it uses 150% scaling (as opposed to the ideal 200%) which means you have subtle display artifacts. Other than Microsoft nobody even makes decent laptops in the Windows world. I am typing this on an Lenovo Yoga, it has…

> which means you have subtle display artifacts.

No. 150÷ just means 96dpi * 1.5

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by intrasight »

philistine wrote: post #400
billyhoffman wrote: post #164

For years Apple has been selling an M1 Apple MacBook Air for $649 via Walmart. It was still using the old wedge case design and is literally unchanged from fall of 2020 when it came out. It was the base model with 256 GB storage and 8 GB of RAM model, no upgrade options, no colors. The price point was designed to get customers who would not pay for a $1000 computer into using a Mac. Sourcing those 2020 era M1 compone…

You're highlighting Apple's strategy very well, with one omission: the M1 Macbook Air at Wal-Mart was US only. Even next door in Canada with the same retailer, Wal-Mart didn't have that deal. This is the M1 Macbook Air deal for the rest of the world as well as the US. This is huge, it's the cheapest Mac laptop of all time. Apple Silicon is paying dividends!

Except sadly it is not using M.

My first Mac was a Mac - ie the first Mac. 128k of memory and $1000 (with the student discount!) in 1994. I've had every architecture of Mac since then - except for M. This one might just have inspired me to try a Mac again - if it had an M.

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by GraemeMeyer »

ashdksnndck wrote: post #621

I wonder if this can develop iOS apps. For me an iPad with the Magic Keyboard case is already my personal laptop, and this device would be a downgrade in almost every way (ergonomics and specs). The one thing I can’t do with my iPad that interests me, that’s got me thinking of buying a personal Mac, is develop software for iOS.

It’s going to be a real struggle with 8 GB of RAM. I have the M1 mini with 8 GB of RAM and even the simplest smallest app in X code is an absolute slog. I ended up having to manually disable some of the Apple Intelligence services to get the ram back just to get the canvas renderer working in Xcode. Literally some of the xcode services just failed in tutorial apps due to RAM shortages. Really bafflingly inefficient compared to Windows IDEs

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by fluidcruft »

lateforwork wrote: post #306

This is a major challenge to Microsoft. A 13-inch Surface Laptop costs $899 [1], that's 50% more than an equivalent MacBook! And even at that higher price the Surface Laptop doesn't have a good screen: it uses 150% scaling (as opposed to the ideal 200%) which means you have subtle display artifacts. Other than Microsoft nobody even makes decent laptops in the Windows world. I am typing this on an Lenovo Yoga, it has…

The Surface has 16GB of RAM vs 8GB on the Neo (Windows definitely eats RAM though so maybe that's par).

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by happyopossum »

racl101 wrote: post #472

I wonder if this is a way for them to take a situation like the RAM shortage and spin it into a way to sell more products with little memory to mask the expensive price of memory by bundling it with the outer shell of the laptop rather than try to sell a few PRO laptops whose price is now very jacked up because of the expensive memory.

This device has been in the pipeline for a lot longer than our current RAM shortage, and it's A18 Pro SOC (with it's integrated 8GB or RAM) was probably taped out before ChatGPT was a thing...

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by tonymet »

reacharavindh wrote: post #250

If this makes people develop stuff under the assumption that the user only has 8 GB of memory, I am happy for where we are going :-)

I love the new reduced resources Era. MS was clever in launching Xbox series S + X and demanding all published games run on the lower spec machine (similar to Xbox One-S specs).

Games and Apps have both been suffering from resource glut -- slow rendering, loading , large downloads , poor user experience.

It'll be great to have 5+ years of low resources to force devs back into taking performance seriously.

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by DauntingPear7 »

uyzstvqs wrote: post #351

For the same price, Walmart is selling the HP Omnibook 5. It has a better CPU, 16 GB RAM (double), and 1 TB SSD (double). There's also another HP for $359 with 8 GB RAM & 1 TB SSD. For half the price of this MacBook Neo, it should offer comparable performance with double the storage.

I can near guarantee this will perform better than both, especially as the user adds more programs and the OS gains cruft

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by xattt »

lateforwork wrote: post #306

This is a major challenge to Microsoft. A 13-inch Surface Laptop costs $899 [1], that's 50% more than an equivalent MacBook! And even at that higher price the Surface Laptop doesn't have a good screen: it uses 150% scaling (as opposed to the ideal 200%) which means you have subtle display artifacts. Other than Microsoft nobody even makes decent laptops in the Windows world. I am typing this on an Lenovo Yoga, it has…

> I am typing this on an Lenovo Yoga, it has decent screen and keyboard, but the touchpad is horrible.

Can we talk about laptops that you can’t carry by the edge where your palm rests because it flexes the frame and registers it as a mouse down event …

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by zamadatix »

anentropic wrote: post #457

8GB RAM is fine for these topping out at 512GB storage is lame though

8 GB is plenty for the base of this use case but I'd still wish for a 16 GB upgrade option before I'd wish for a 1 TB upgrade option.
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