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Post by ffaser5gxlsll »

Capricorn2481 wrote: post #527
ffaser5gxlsll wrote: post #189

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It's never fine to be rude. Moving off github into a more niche platform was the best choice I have ever made to curb such zero-effort issue and feature requests. It raises the barrier just enough. On the other hand, I'm a dev, and I hate the "start a discussion first" gatekeeping. I participated in projects where the approach is to start a discussion on a forum first, and I get the same feeling you have as a tech gu…

> On the other hand, I'm a dev, and I hate the "start a discussion first" gatekeeping Seems like a completely appropriate way to handle things if you're still on Github. You said yourself the spam drove you off. They could let people who are proven not to be spammers open PRs directly.

> You said yourself the spam drove you off.

Yes, indeed. But I still stand by the gatekeeping though.

Sadly, it's a tragedy due to how popular github (and similar services) have become.

These sites were supposed to be by developers for developers.

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Post by Arainach »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #630
Arainach wrote: post #615

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You absolutely can, because you can sell the bitcoins and turn them directly into money in your savings account. There are exchanges that declare their exact value. You can't do that with prestige. There's no exchange and no market. Crucially, money, bitcoin, and pokemon cards are all transferrable . You can't transfer prestige to someone else, so it has no value in financial transactions.

Transference doesn't matter, because exchange is not a requirement for gain. People get things merely from having prestige/influence/power all the time . It's sometimes called an award, and sometimes called tribute, and sometimes called currying favor. > you can sell the bitcoins Prestige is influence, and you can absolutely sell the use or effects of influence. > There are exchanges that declare their exact value. P…

It's been known in creative fields - including software - forever that payment in "influence" is worthless.

It's been a meme for decades.

http://www.fyoupay.me/

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Post by gosub100 »

regenschutz wrote: post #625
gosub100 wrote: post #405

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I want to extend this idea to email. Use encryption, but for proof that the email can't be read, instead of for security/privacy (not that I'm against either of those). Update the email protocol so that all messages must be encrypted. Not "by default", but by necessity. The server rejects them if they aren't encrypted and signed in a way that proves the decryption key is on a block chain. The only way to put the key…

Unfortunately, I doubt that would work. Email is so popular because it's sort of a universal messaging protocol that so many old but critical pieces of infrastructure require. If this "Email 2.0" released, it would take years, if not decades, for critical infrastructure to switch over. In the meantime, you'd still need an Email 1.0 client. So now you have a mix of your most important emails from critical infrastructu…

It would be monumental to get people to shift en masse, I agree.

Perhaps it could start off as a niche service to contact really popular people who could command high fees to speak to them. For instance, $MOVIE_STAR could have a $500 message fee (that goes to charity) to be able to say something to him/her and maybe get a reply. This could popularize the service, and it could grow over time.

Another problem is that the legacy email providers would not like transporting encrypted payloads that they can't mine personal data from.

Attachments could also be a headache, do they get stored for free? On the chain or on the recipient server?

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Post by fakedang »

buckle8017 wrote: post #525
fakedang wrote: post #311

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Honestly that's just the massive population talking. There really isn't a "Hindi web" for India unlike for the Chinese, so we all come to roost in the WWW. Hence you'll get bad questions like these but you'll also get YouTube videos on obscure engineering and science topics, which I think is a fair deal. The Chinese web is on similar lines, although there is a lot more country bashing, especially against Indians and…

India is maybe 10% of the English speakers on earth. It's not the population size that's talking.

1 billion internet users, some of whom may have an inkling of how to speak in English.

My father's former property groundskeeper, a daily wage labourer, could speak poor English but he could string a few words together and understand the basic gist of a Hollywood movie, even without much of an English education. Imagine 100s of millions of those people and there's your answer.

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Post by quails8mydog »

flakeoil wrote: post #575
koliber wrote: post #212

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I've seen an interesting behavior in India. If I ask someone on the street for directions, they will always give me an answer, even if they don't know. If they don't know, they'll make something up. This was strange. I asked a lot of Indian people about it and they said that it has to do with "saving face". Saying "I don't know" is a disgraceful thing. So if someone does not know the answer, they make something up in…

It's the same in the UK (when it comes to giving directions). Maybe for completely different reasons. I guess they just want to be nice and helpful. And always with a cheerful: "...you can't miss it." Yeah, sure.

That's not been my experience living in the UK. Whe I've asked for directions people either give correct ones (as far as I remember) or say they don't know. When people ask me and I don't know, I say I don't know.

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Post by necovek »

burningChrome wrote: post #567
mixedbit wrote: post #156

Long time ago Sourceforge and then GitHub promoted into the current default the model of open source distribution which is not sustainable and I doubt it is something that the founding fathers of Free Software/Open Source had in mind. Open source licenses are about freedom of using and modifying software. The movement grew out of frustration that commercial software cannot be freely improved and fixed by the user to…

Years ago, I built what I thought was a pretty basic static site generator using HapiJS. I was using it for personal projects and after some convincing by friends, put it up on Github. My friends went on Reddit and posted it and then told me about it afterwards. It initially got some decent traction and then all of a sudden, all the pull requests came, all the feature requests and then all the bug reports. I kept tel…

In general, there is a difference of ethos and culture between Free Software and Open Source movements. GitHub is the latter: strewn with expectations from low-effort requests.

With free software, many projects have their own code hosting with separate accounts, sometimes even separate bug trackers with another set of accounts (think Bugzilla + GitLab). Any submission is by definition bigger effort, and thus the culture is significantly different.

As an example, just try submitting a patch to GNU libc (if it hasn't switched to GitHub in the intervening years, though I'd be surprised as it's a GNU project, but it's also largely supported by Red Hat), and see where you get to. Or join the GNOME community and submit a fix. Or FreeDesktop. Or KDE. Or...

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Post by lelanthran »

epolanski wrote: post #297
causalscience wrote: post #44

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> Indian students Is this cultural? I ran a small business some years ago (later failed) and was paying for contract work to various people. At the I perceived the pattern that Indian contractors would never ever ask for clarifications, would never say they didn't know something, would never say they didn't understand something, etc. Instead they just ran with whatever they happened to have in their mind, until I cal…

I don't know if it is, but I can swear every time I post a job opening (generally contracting work) on LinkedIn 95% of the applicants are Indians/Bangladesh/Pakistanis/Sri Lankans. I ignore all of their resumes, not because I don't think there's valid individuals among them, I did hire them in the past, but: 1. because the signal to noise ratio is absurd. The overwhelming majority didn't even read the actual post. 2.…

It's a pity. I'm Indian by race, but not by birth, nationality or culture.

Your low signal applications would also cause my application to be thrown away :-(.

FWIW, I'm happy to have a video chat with you, I'm in GMT+2.

No job pitch, no asks for money; just chat with someone like-minded on a different continent for shits and giggles.

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Post by em-bee »

vladms wrote: post #628
em-bee wrote: post #291

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the berne convention copyright defines inalienable authors rights that can not be sold or taken away from the author. the author of any copyright works always has the right to identify themselves with the work, and therefore your suggestion is not legally possible.

I am not a lawyer, so can't propose the best way to implement this, but the Berne convention contains provisions for "anonymous and pseudonymous works", see Art 15.

but that's only at the behest of the author. it can not be made a condition by the recipient, but that's what would be necessary if the goal is to prevent abuse of contributions for self promotion. the author can always deanonymize their contribution at any later point. right to self promotion is a core feature of copyright law that can't be circumvented.

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Post by ranger_danger »

neoromantique wrote: post #624
latexr wrote: post #601

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Not only is cURL not overhyped, it’s absolutely false that Daniel “[cries] about not being paid for something he offers for free”. He does get paid for cURL support. https://daniel.haxx.se/job.html He does criticise rich companies who don’t do anything to support cURL and demand preferential support, but that’s not the same thing (and does warrant criticism).

Daniel is also not an american

Why does that matter?

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Post by Aerolfos »

actionfromafar wrote: post #227
Aerolfos wrote: post #164

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> But also, it means more people need to have the "big picture", and they need to be able to make good decisions (not just arbitrary ones). So the ideal goal is to prevent people from going off in random nonsensical directions based on miscommunication, and equip them to actually think strategically about the overall plan. Continent X might make different decisions than continent Y, but they're all talking, and enoug…

Explaining the plan to the individual soldier also works better when the individual soldier is expected to care at all about the overall goal. (Such as believing in the mission of defending the home country.) When the soldier only has extrinsic motivation such as money, top-down command and control and treating soldiers solely as equipment to be spent makes more "sense", in a terrible way. Maybe that applies to softw…

Good leadership means getting the individuals to care. That's no different in software

And yes, good leadership is very hard, and many managers aren't any good at it

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