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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by chii »

TheDong wrote: post #628
keiferski wrote: post #615

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But many cities in the real world already have ads everywhere. If anything, a modified AR device could allow you to detect and remove those.

The public spaces are subsidized by advertising. Filtering out billboards on the highway is reducing their impressions, and thus reducing the money that ultimately goes into repairing the road you're driving on. The modified AR device will instead filter ads, but charge 0.03 cents per ad filtered, and each advertiser will get 0.02 cents each time their ad is filtered. Facebook of course keeps the remaining 30% for fa…

> pay 0.10c not to view their ad

i can't tell if this is satire or not lol

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Post by keiferski »

TheDong wrote: post #628
keiferski wrote: post #615

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But many cities in the real world already have ads everywhere. If anything, a modified AR device could allow you to detect and remove those.

The public spaces are subsidized by advertising. Filtering out billboards on the highway is reducing their impressions, and thus reducing the money that ultimately goes into repairing the road you're driving on. The modified AR device will instead filter ads, but charge 0.03 cents per ad filtered, and each advertiser will get 0.02 cents each time their ad is filtered. Facebook of course keeps the remaining 30% for fa…

I’m not so sure that private billboards are funding road maintenance. I would assume that mostly comes from taxes and fees like tolls.

I imagine that there will be ad blocking hacks just like there are ad blockers on browsers. So not a huge difference from the current situation.

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Post by theshackleford »

4fterd4rk wrote: post #36

How many more millions are these companies going to flush down the toilet before they get it through their heads that normal people do not like wearing technology on their face? 3D TVs failed. VR gaming failed. Even Apple isn't really pulling off AR. They test and develop these products on their techie early adopter employees and are shocked shocked shocked when normal people who care what they look like aren't willi…

>VR gaming failed.

It may be niche, but it's not a failure to me and I appreciate the market. Most of my gaming is in VR and has been for years. I treat it like my steering wheel and pedals or anything else. I have a dedicated room for VR/my simrig.

For the market that want's it, it works incredibly well. Could be better, but I get being a niche developments are going to come slowly. I'm in the lucky minority I suppose in that I have no issue using it. None, not so much as a hint of nausea even far back as the original devkits. I slip the headset on in under 5 seconds, I play for anywhere from 15 minutes into the hours and I slip it off again in the same amount of time. I understand not everyone is willing to entertain that, but it's no skin off my nose. It's still one of the LESS involved hobbies I have in terms of effort honestly.

I'm probably more willing to entertain wearing technology on my face because i'm a motorcyclist and my headsets are sure as all get out lighter than my helmet is. And then after the helmet I gotta get into my personal oven aka leathers etc etc. So im probably just used to engaging in less passive activities requiring more than the bare minium I suppose. Different strokes for all us different folks I suppose.

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Post by WA »

dools wrote: post #589

I just can't imagine ever buying something like this from Facebook. I know everyone shits on about Google being bad and whatnot, but the things I buy from Google aren't really part of their advertising business. I pay for Workspace and Google Cloud Platform, and those things don't advertise at me. I am more likely to cruise around already logged into Google as a result of using those things, which obviously plays int…

That is kinda like saying "I pay for FB ads and WhatsApp business, and these things doesn’t advertise at me".

Google has "build an ad profile about every human being" in their DNA just like Facebook, employing similar creepy tactics with Gmail and Chrome.

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Post by chabad360 »

bensandcastle wrote: post #543

Having built similar tech (Meta, YC S13), it's been a great year with Vision Pro, Orion, Spectacles and more coming out. Currently at my co, seeing most day to day use out of XReal, and keen for Visor. AR/XR/MR/VR app I'm most looking forward to is a 360 location share with the sharing user in AR, and the receiving user in VR, with additional virtual objects shared between. Orion would be great for the send side, wit…

Damn! That's a throwback. I remember reading about you guys in an airplane magazine once and getting hooked on the concept. I always wondered where y'all went...

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Post by perryizgr8 »

IanCal wrote: post #108
ang_cire wrote: post #85

This is cool from a technical standpoint, but ultimately just feels like another gimmick. This feels like it's doing stuff that I could do faster or better (and definitely, more safely) on a computer or phone. I don't personally see the appeal of hands-free as a paradigm in most cases. Do we really want people talking on and looking at Zoom as they walk around the office? Or as they drive? Or as they are out shopping…

What's weird to me with the call example is I can receive a video call but I can't respond with a video of me. And I find being on a video call with someone just on audio very creepy. If I'm not a weirdo for that, then it's distinctly worse than a hands free voice call, which we already have

Just stand in front of a mirror lol

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Post by vincnetas »

keiferski wrote: post #615
lifeinthevoid wrote: post #605

My biggest gripe with AR products is that they will just become a tool to spoil the real world with ads everywhere. No thanks.

But many cities in the real world already have ads everywhere. If anything, a modified AR device could allow you to detect and remove those.

Good thing that in reality people are noticing that adds are too intrusive and removing them from public spaces. Or at least regulating them. Google about the cities that have banned outdoor advertisement.

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Post by ac29 »

mattlondon wrote: post #265
wg0 wrote: post #123

So product managers in these companies really think these products will make money and would become sustainable produc lone? Or it's just muscle flex and show off?

They backed the wrong horse RE "The Next Big Thing", and they're being stubborn about admitting it IMHO. Sunk costs and all that. I think everyone was obviously aware that "the metaverse" and VR was obviously not what the world needed, yet they pivoted the whole company to it while they totally missed AI taking over ~everything else. Yes yes llama leak/release etc, but I am not really seeing them making any product e…

> no ChatGPT competitor

See www.meta.ai

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Post by greatwhitenorth »

dools wrote: post #589

I just can't imagine ever buying something like this from Facebook. I know everyone shits on about Google being bad and whatnot, but the things I buy from Google aren't really part of their advertising business. I pay for Workspace and Google Cloud Platform, and those things don't advertise at me. I am more likely to cruise around already logged into Google as a result of using those things, which obviously plays int…

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