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Re: Apple Mac Studio

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For cases when you have let's say a gaming PC and a Macbook connected to the same screen. You want a USB-C port so the Macbook will get everything from a single USB-C port (power included), but you also want your gaming PC to benefit from a high performance monitor with high refresh rates on a DisplayPort/HDMI connection.

Isn't this what a dock is for? Are you treating your monitor itself as the dock? I still don't see why the monitor itself needs USB-C support. I use a Lenovo Thunderbolt dock for both my M1 16" MBP and a Lenovo laptop running Linux. It runs 2 x DisplayPort monitors, mouse, keyboard, and webcam.

> Isn't this what a dock is for? Are you treating your monitor itself as the dock

Yep. There are monitors with Type-C, power delivery, usb hub, so they avoid you the need of having a dock. Usually they're priced at around monitor+fancy dock, so it doesn't even cost more for more practicality.

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> My jaw hit the floor when I saw USB A ports. Don‘t forget the headphone jack!

I don't think there are any Macs that don't have a headphone jack, with the possible exception of the Mac Pro.

So much for the "people don't use headphone jacks anymore" argument for the phones.

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Also I feel like everyone is missing their AR/VR push right around the corner. VR headsets with these chips will be dramatically more powerful than other devices on the market. Combine that power with Apple product marketing, and devs will be there regardless of how much the Metal APIs suck.

VR is happening on PC. Event the Quest2 has a PC link that expands its possibility many-fold, and you guessed it, it works only on PC. Apple could come with its magic to take the field, but it’s been a while we saw them succeed in a market where a serious competitor is already expanding (voice assistants or the apple TV comes to mind). I’d love to be proven wrong, but won’t be holding my breath)

There is no “serious competitor” in VR/AR, because there is no market yet. The number of devices sold is miniscule. When AR/VR actually takes off, it’s going to look very, very different from what we have today.

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I haven't yet seen screens with USB-C support that have refresh rates higher than 60hz, unfortunately.

Check out Gigabyte M28U/M32U. 4k & 144 Hz. DisplayPort over USB-C. Supports alt-mode.

I have the M32U. My only gripe is that the colors(DCI-P3 90%) are just not as good as my Macbook or my Dell U2720Q.

Otherwise, it has been great, especially with games.

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Even if they stagnate, you can at least pull out a GPU and replace it with another (when they're available for purchase) even if you don't change RAM/CPU which you could replace when faster is better as well. You can even change storage options. None of that swapability is available on any of the Apple systems, so when they stagnate there's nothing that can be done.

Practically this doesn't often happen, especially on work machines. All the parts are loosely linked by generation. It's not often you want to jump forward 5 years in GPU tech but not want an upgrade in every other field. Unless you are swapping parts out yearly for the absolute latest bit, there is not a whole lot of benefit over selling your existing device and getting the new one where you will see improvements ac…

It's true. But then if you are only interested in swapping RAM or GPUs, you can keep your machine for a long time.

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$8k for 128GB RAM, 8 TB solid state storage and 22 trillion ops/sec isn't exactly a bargain. I do however image that the performance per watt will be really good.

I think you would struggle, TBH. The m1 ultra will likely have geekbench scores equal to the 3990x ($5k). The gpu (based on double performance of the max) should be something similar to an RTX 3070 ($1k). 128GB RAM is going to set you back another $1k. 8TB of storage will be another $1k. Then you have to add on motherboard ($1k), case ($200), cooling ($200), psu ($200). Even if you cut a few corners, you are still ov…

If one is only interested in single core performance, the M1 Ultra doesn't offer anything significant from the M1 Pro/Max, AMD, or Intel CPUs.

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> low-margin Really? Have you missed the insane markups on anything 'gaming' related for many years?

Could you provide an example?

Compare any normal keyboard with 'gamer' models where the only difference is colored led...

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My jaw hit the floor when I saw USB A ports. If only it had multiple HDMI ...

> My jaw hit the floor when I saw USB A ports. Don‘t forget the headphone jack!

But (to be picky) why is it on the back???

I mean, if you're going to break with Apple tradition and have visible ports on the front, seems like you'd want the headphone jack to be one of them.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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This is such a random thing to complain about but I hate these Mac product pages with the animations as you scroll. I guess they are designed for mobile but I navigate them on a desktop using a mouse wheel and they always look super clunky.

Their pages respect prefers-reduced-motion [1] though. You have the choice to see a static page if you prefer.

[1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/pref...

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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As a dev, I think this is neat - but unfortunately, to this very day, the most important workloads usually are single-threaded, even the ones that are multi-threaded, rarely scale to more than 8 cores. This usually means that the advanced M1 variants don't really offer an advantage over the base offering, although, more RAM is always nice.

It's long past the time to change this.

Even Xcode now has a much more parallelized build system.

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