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Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by BonoboIO »

srvmshr wrote: post #84

I am genuinely crestfallen that there was no update to Mac Mini. That thing has the right balance for most computer science folks who want a Mac. Not everyone needs/runs a silicon Godzilla on their desk after all. As of the current lineup, Mini is still stuck with 16 GB RAM and a disappointing number of ports.

Apple M1 | 8‑core CPU, 8‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine, 16GB RAM, 10Gbit LAN = 899$

Apple Studio | 20-Core CPU, 48-Core GPU, 32-Core Neural Engine! 64GB RAM! 10Gbit LAN = 3999$

I think the M1 is a nice product for 95% of people including iOS Devs.

Silent, „cheap“, cost effective, nice build server. If you need more power … well get the small studio or buy another one.

Renting from hetzner is also cheap. 49€ with really unlimited bandwith. 20 TB traffic in a month? No problem, nobody cares.

https://www.hetzner.com/de/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-apple

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by brimble »

BonoboIO wrote: post #264
brimble wrote: post #232

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It looks like they made a taller computer then cut it off 2/3 of the way down. Something about the proportions read as simply wrong .

But if it works, well its better than Jony Ive‘s „design is everything, function is last“ approach. - Like the Mac Pro (2013) which was thermal limited even with the launch configuration and could not be refreshed because more power would mean less power through throttling - Magic Mouse 2 which well u could not use while charging - Macbook Pro Touchbar which is there because there was nothing else to „inovate“ - MacB…

I agree with some of this, but will note that actually using a Magic Mouse 2 cured me of joking about the design (I was entirely on the "LOL how dumb" train before that). It wasn't an issue, in practice, and did keep me from just using it plugged in all the time (which is what I tend to do with other wireless things at my desk that have integrated rechargeable batteries).

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Post by ilamont »

brailsafe wrote: post #258
ilamont wrote: post #252

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My jaw hit the floor when I saw USB A ports. If only it had multiple HDMI ...

What would you use multiple HDMI ports for? Do you exclusively use HDMI only screens/tv?

So I don't have to use a dongle for a second screen. They break, come loose, and sometimes don't work with Apple equipment.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by throwanem »

adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #242
cj wrote: post #197

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> $8k for 128GB RAM, 8 TB solid state storage Maybe not, but 32GB RAM + 512GB SSD for $2k is a pretty competitive price point.

a 512 gb ssd is kinda inexcusable in a machine that costs more than $1000 1tb of ssd is only around $100.

A terabyte of dead-slow and flaky SSD costs a hundred bucks, sure. But it doesn't matter much because, in the kinds of professional workflows this machine is targeting, local storage is more like swap space than anything. It needs to be fast more than it needs to be big.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by dilap »

kube-system wrote: post #239
QuikAccount wrote: post #90

This is such a random thing to complain about but I hate these Mac product pages with the animations as you scroll. I guess they are designed for mobile but I navigate them on a desktop using a mouse wheel and they always look super clunky.

Mouse wheels mostly just don't have a good input resolution. It's one of the main reasons I stopped using a mouse and switched to an apple trackpad full time. I can't stand static pages that scroll in chunks either.

it sucks w/ trackpad too tho! it's just totally breaks any physicality to scrolling

it's insane to me that they keep using this

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by whiteboardr »

areoform wrote: post #22

I would like to highlight just how much Apple is focusing on their customers and use cases right now. It seems that they're targeting products to what their professional customers actually want. And in this case, it's a 3.7" little thing that can process 18 streams of 8k video (fully specced out). That's kinda crazy, and they're doing it at a price point that's competitive compared to all of the companies out there.…

This.

I don’t care if a laptop is a tad thicker, or the aesthetics would allow the device to sit in a museum - Ive helped make them desireable objects, the iPhone provided the scale and momentum and Apple silicon in macs at last allows for focus on actual usability. This set of kit will pave the way for a revolution in how we think about computing.

Indeed, Bravo!

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by drorco »

brailsafe wrote: post #258
ilamont wrote: post #252

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My jaw hit the floor when I saw USB A ports. If only it had multiple HDMI ...

What would you use multiple HDMI ports for? Do you exclusively use HDMI only screens/tv?

I haven't yet seen screens with USB-C support that have refresh rates higher than 60hz, unfortunately.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by ghostly_s »

newaccount74 wrote: post #191
ggreg84 wrote: post #154

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When the M1 was released... a year ago... You could buy a 900$ laptop with a better CPU than any laptop out there. 20 hours battery life (almost 3x any other laptop out there). Silent (no fans). With a great screen, a great keyboard, lightweight, well built, etc. Basically a machine that was more than 2x cheaper of competing laptops at 2500 $ or more, yet had more than 2x of everything.

... if you can live with machines that just come with the bare minimum RAM and SSD. If you get the Macs with the same amount of storage that the PCs come with, the $900 laptop quickly becomes a $2000 laptop. I wish I could get back all the time I've wasted helping relatives deal with their Photos libraries and backups just because they got the entry level machine with skimpy storage...

How long did it take you to check the 'Optimize Storage' box?

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by brailsafe »

gigatexal wrote: post #259
adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #242

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a 512 gb ssd is kinda inexcusable in a machine that costs more than $1000 1tb of ssd is only around $100.

But ssd is not 100 usd gumstick from of the shelf it’s integrated and sports speeds of 7.4GB/s at the top end. Shrug

No, it's a $200-400 gumstick that you can get off the shelf

https://www.newegg.com/seagate-2tb-firecuda-530/p/N82E168202...

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by dmitriid »

QuikAccount wrote: post #90

This is such a random thing to complain about but I hate these Mac product pages with the animations as you scroll. I guess they are designed for mobile but I navigate them on a desktop using a mouse wheel and they always look super clunky.

They used to be quick and smooth on the desktop, too. But it looks like Apple has been taken over by designers in the name only.
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