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YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by downandout »

EastOfTruth wrote: post #560
downandout wrote: post #527

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This is a fascinating tweet on many levels. 1) I think it's safe to assume that Joe Biden has no SEO expertise, which means that someone with the power to send the President of the United States out for a photo op does. They went out and found someone named Brandon for Biden to pose for a photo op with. 2) To me it's terrifying that Presidential actions are now being dictated by SEO concerns, but it is interesting. 3…

Is the full video of that town hall meeting available anywhere?

https://youtu.be/R8R2545fHCo

Oddly, it’s pretty well hidden in search, while other, older town halls came right up. I had to select a number of specific options in YouTube’s search just to find it.

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Post by furgooswft13 »

silverspoonin wrote: post #575
DrJones1098 wrote: post #491

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Well established scientific concensus. If you're referring to anything related to Covid there's no well-established scientific consensus it literally just happened around year and a half ago it's impossible to have scientific consensus. Even the most respected scientists are saying they don't know about a lot of things related to covid. also well-established scientific consensus is not an ideal goal post . Galileo wa…

"Well-established scientific consensus" may not be perfect, but may I challenge you to provide an alternative with a better track record? It generally takes in new information and self-corrects over time. As I mentioned to someone else in this threat, Issac Asimov's essay "The Relativity of Wrong" may be old but it's still very relevant today.

> Well-established scientific consensus" may not be perfect, but may I challenge you to provide an alternative with a better track record?

The Scientific Method, rigorous debate and freedom of speech and association. "Scientific consensus" is just a media invention.

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Post by furgooswft13 »

hiram112 wrote: post #514
gremloni wrote: post #493

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The jester is basically spreading hate speech and harmful misinformation. There limits to iTs juST a pRAnk

> hate speech and harmful misinformation Both undefinable terms that are increasingly being used anytime the current Western establishment wishes to censor speech and silence their opponents. When the Chinese or Russians do it, we call it out for what it is: censorship and abuse of power. It's even more insidious when it's done in supposedly free societies, because we wrap it up in a bow with these nebulous terms and…

> It's even more insidious when it's done in supposedly free societies, because we wrap it up in a bow with these nebulous terms and feign noble intentions.

Yea they do that in China too. The Chinese have a particular knack IMO for flowery language that covers for various government shenanigans. Most censorship in China also takes place at whims of private enterprise, just like in the west.

When China is criticizing the US they call our abuses exactly what they are, while equivocating their own. Nothing new under the sun.

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Post by therealdrag0 »

joemazerino wrote: post #553

How many artists, journalists, politicians and industry people literally said "Fuck Donald Trump" without being banned or censored? What a joke. 1 example - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FjPeF4lkEeQ

It’s not about political speech? Is it?

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Post by irl_chad »

TameAntelope wrote: post #622
matthewmarkus wrote: post #580

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The point of repealing section 230 is to end YouTube as we know it. Basically, YouTube becomes the Washington Post and can carry fully moderated content that it selects and publishes. YouTube's current business model only exists by legislative fiat. It's time to give power back to the courts and reinstate the precedent of Stratton Oakmont, Inc. v. Prodigy Services Co. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratton_Oakmont,_I…

Literally impossible as long as the First Amendment exists. You cannot compel speech with legislation the way you apparently want to. Section 230 is just a way to shortcut litigation, the First Amendment is ultimately the protector of YouTube, and will remain so as long as the United States remains a country. Repealing 230 would just trigger a new set of lawsuits, one of which would end up in front of the Supreme Cou…

The idea isn’t repealing 230 - it’s to recognise any platform that’s manually curating content as a publisher. Then if that publisher hosts illegal content, they’re liable, because if they can curate some of the content, they should be responsible for all of it.

Also political feasibility in the USA isn’t the end-all be-all. YouTube certainly wants to do business in other countries/regions - such as the EU. Google is a public company, and as such it’s executives have a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders. Right now, since other megacorps want Google to censor content so their ads don’t run alongside XYZ content that you don’t like, Google is following their fiduciary duties. But if a regulator steps in, it becomes a matter if “oh shit doing business in the EU is more important than doing business with cocacola”

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Post by gremloni »

JakeAl wrote: post #515
gremloni wrote: post #493

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The jester is basically spreading hate speech and harmful misinformation. There limits to iTs juST a pRAnk

There's no such thing as hate speech, only free speech and speech you like or don't like.

There’s literally laws defining hate speech.

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Post by gremloni »

exporectomy wrote: post #541
gremloni wrote: post #493

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The jester is basically spreading hate speech and harmful misinformation. There limits to iTs juST a pRAnk

Did you really live through that whole Trump-era hate speech and harmful misinformation culture and not once stop to understand what that means? Did you do nothing more than repeat slogans without passing them through your human intellect first? I dare you to define those terms so that they mean anything other than "The enemy's tribe is bad because it's not the one I happened to fall into."

The enemy’s tribe is bad because they’re racist.

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Post by pvaldes »

downandout wrote: post #333
pvaldes wrote: post #321

Well done. The song is just stupid political publicity Qmamon style without one single smart line. Nothing valuable is lost

It's called censorship. It rarely ends well for society.

I could claim that pissing in the curtains in a room full of minors is part of my personal freedom, but most people would agree that some behaviors must be restricted.

The president represents the people. If somebody spreads a song that basically repeats "f*k the president" in a loop, claiming that must be allowed because: part of my freedom to hate somebody; other could be justified to say "f*k the blacks", or the latins or the asians in a song. Could even claim that is even a minor offense against less people, right? I totally support the right to satire, but this is just hate speech against democrats. There is not a good part in the entire song.

And we have 600000 people killed after allowing this snake talk roaming wild. Maybe is time to strike back against people aiming to dissolve the society... Dunno.

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