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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by whatever1 » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 8:20 PM UTC

I really wished for a 120hz 6k external monitor that does not have all the HDR / dimming zone fluff and does not cost $6000 usd.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by mcovalt » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 8:22 PM UTC

solarmist wrote: post #534

ChuckMcM wrote: post #479

Priced out the one I would buy and it is $4300. Seems the value isn't quite there. Hard to say though without playing with it for a while. So clearly I need to go back to work for some tech company that will buy one for me :-). It is more interesting to me to reflect on the comments from about 5 years ago that "ARM will never be in laptops, its a 'phone' processor." That statement was both true and ignored the realit…

Apple has always been a hardware company though. Software has just been for the purpose of selling their hardware. MSFT is the opposite. So it makes sense it be much slower/harder to get going in this area.

> Apple has always been a hardware company though. Software has just been for the purpose of selling their hardware.

I'm not sure that's the right perspective. Steve Jobs said in an interview [0] that "Apple views itself as a software company."

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEeyaAUCyZs

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by soheil » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 8:22 PM UTC

smoovb wrote: post #16

Kills the touch bar, the light touch keyboard, adds back weight, card reader, ports and the mag safe. Feels like an apology for prior design decisions. My 2011 MBP is new again!

Not really, the performance will make your 2011 mbp feel an extra 10x older now.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by geerlingguy » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 8:22 PM UTC

fotta wrote: post #207

ssijak wrote: post #96

This is literally a dream laptop. Improved in every area and lacking in none I can think of right now. And the price is crazy cheap for this performance if you ask me.

they brought back the t-shaped arrows too!

That's been a thing for a couple Intel generations now. I think only the 2016-2017 laptops had those horrible hodgepodge of arrow keys.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by Yaina » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 8:22 PM UTC

I guess I'm pretty much alone here, but I don't really like these new MacBooks.

The things I'm happy about:

  - Function keys are back!
  - They kept touchID
  - Chips are probably pretty good
  - Headphone jack, yay!

But what I really dislike:

  - The case-design looks kind of outdated. I'm getting MacBook Pro 2006 vibes here.
  - The base price starts at 2.000$ (2250€) !
  - The notch... On the iPhone the notch was justified with a whole sensor array for FaceID, now we have something similar sized here for one 1080p camera. With a hole-punch I wouldn't have said anything; but here I'd rather have 2-3cm of bezels than a big notch.
  - I really bought into the USB-C future! I know that's not the case for everyone, and the addition of the SD-Card reader is welcome. But the HDMI port seems a bit...strange to me. It doesn't really cry "future of connectivity". I charge my MacBook with USB-C I connect my screens with USB-C (to display port) and for my occasional USB-A and HDMI needs I get out my one dongle. This actually seems like a step backwards for me.

I know lots of these are highly opinionated, but...yeah: Bummer for me.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by belltaco » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 8:24 PM UTC

NovaS1X wrote: post #460

belltaco wrote: post #407

If they'd only add touchscreens. Sigh. Edit: Ouch, so many downvotes just for asking for a feature. Weird.

I'm very, very happy they haven't done this yet.

Why? Just don't buy that model.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by m0zg » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 8:24 PM UTC

It's the "Fuck you Jony" edition. Ports (including HDMI!), MagSafe, and no touchbar. Would be a fine laptop if it didn't have government spyware baked in that I can't turn off even if I power it down.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by soheil » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 8:24 PM UTC

nbzso wrote: post #399

Nice. Ports are back. Very nice. Prices are up. Not nice. The deal breaker is the notch. Sorry Apple I am a designer. I cannot watch this 24/7. Even if the top bar is black the notch will be visible enough to distract my visual line. The more I look at this, the more I like the Framework laptop. P.S. Happy down-voting, have a nice day and stay safe.

I don't like the notch either but you can compare this to the Framework laptop? This is literally a monster in performance compare to some of the most high end laptops on the market.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by thallium205 » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 8:26 PM UTC

petercooper wrote: post #473

I don't plan to go back to MagSafe. I have multiport USB-C chargers all round my house and don't really want to buy lots of cables or proprietary chargers to add to the mix. I'm sticking with USB-C even if it's slower. SD cards I don't use. And HDMI I rarely use so dongles are fine, but it's nice to have I guess!

They said you can still charge it via USB-C as well as the magsafe. Your choice.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by crubier » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 8:26 PM UTC

The 1000nits display (1600nits "peak", whatever that means), is a major selling point for me!