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Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

#631
So has anyone's bag actually caught fire due to this?

If so, can we put it in a Dell commercial? Just grab any old Dell advertisement stock footage and dub it with fire alarm noises and a spouse yelling in the distance "honey, your room caught fire again!"

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

#632
In all extended travel and especially airplane travel, safety should be your primary concern. Under no circumstances should you leave a laptop powered on and in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag, backpack, or in an overhead bin. The laptop will overheat as a result of that action.

With regards to transporting your laptop, safety should be your primary concern. You should always turn the laptop OFF: Select the Start button ,Click Power, Click Shut down

Wow, I'd be asking for a refund, since that would make my laptop much less usable -- when I leave work, I fold up my laptop, put it in my bag, then hop on the bus home, then when I get home, I opened it up and pick up where I left off, then repeat in the morning.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

#634
It's remarkable to me how generally pleasant the phone/tablet power management experience is, in comparison to laptops. It's such complete shit on laptops. My laptop has better battery life in S0 low power idle than either S3 or (Linux) S2idle. I blame ACPI as a standard, and all of its bearers.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

#635
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Huh. What version Mac/OSX are you using? I've had a Yubikey Nano plugged into various iterations of a MacBook Pro for years and haven't noticed this. The worst battery killer for me is Firefox.

10.14, late 2019 16 inch mbp I thought I was being crazy and that maybe something was brushing it, so I let it sit in a moat on my desk immediately after booting. Full battery discharge in sleep in under 30 hours. Without the yubikey, a full weekend sitting on my desk from a full charge leaves a reported 100% of battery.

That’s not quite possible. I wish 10.14 supported the 2019 rMBP 16 but alas..

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

#636

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Same sentiment, and that's how I found Linux. I've now made it a solemn vow to convert every daily driver I have to dual-boot Win/Linux when it's a >100GB HD.

Ah right, Linux, the platform where suspend and resume doesn't even work and hibernation is a mess. AMD https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-S2id... s2idle is broken and I have an AMD thinkpad with deep sleep and even that doesn't suspend 80% of the time. Intel (search for 'deep' and 's2idle') https://community.frame.work/t/ubuntu-21-04-on-the-framework... I already know the replies I might get but…

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Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

#637

I stopped using my Microsoft Surface Pro because it had the same issues. It's a clusterfuck of bad design decisions at Microsoft, the most offensive one being that they prioritize the execution of their scheduled spyware upload (telemetry) over honoring the agreement with the user that a sleeping PC will remain asleep unless the user takes action. It'll even install updates at night and then make reboot sounds to wak…

This is the literal reason I switched to OSX. I dislike the impractical design of Macbooks - horrible connectivity and no way to swap batteries. However the combination of 15 hrs battery life + closing the lid and it not melting a hole in my bag trumps any negatives.

"Not melting a hole"

Ha! While not related to the bag issue, I had a 15" MBP literally catch fire in my bed while I was asleep.

I fell asleep wat hing Netflix or some such and the macbook caught fire and woke me up.

It was in the recall batch for batteries at that time.

I took it to apple flagship SF store.

They had the FN machine for two months then came back and said that at some point the moisture sensor went off and due to this reason they would not honor the battery recall or address the fact it caught on fire and the "apologized" for the potential "safety hazaard"

They told me my option was to buy a new one, or take it to a 3ed party repair place and have it repaired for more than the machine was worth.

I haven't bought another mac since, and I have switched from iPhones entirely, even though I have had an iPhone since day one.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

#638
Macs are the only computers I’ve used that have had close to zero issues with sleep. But I don’t even bother sleeping on the machines running Linux distros: with SSDs, powering on and off is so fast that I just shut the computer down whenever I’m done with it. I should time it to know for sure, but a cold boot to fully operational Firefox window feels like maybe 15 seconds. Powering off is not even five seconds. Not as fast as waking from sleep on my MBP but zippy enough for me.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

#639
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The issue is that Windows doesn't go into S3 sleep when you close the lid; it goes into a weird not-really-asleep state for... some reason that I don't agree with[0]. I guess that state is "hot" enough that you could damage the laptop by putting it in a bag while in that state. Fortunately I've been running Linux on my XPS 13, which I have put into a bag hundreds of times (maybe even over a thousand) while suspended.…

Just wait. The newer laptops don't have S3 in the bios at all.

True but you can enable it on some laptops by telling the firmware setup that your OS is Linux. I'm not sure what Linux S2idle is in ACPI lingo, but that's what Linux uses on my newest lapop by default. S3 (suspend-to-RAM) is not available to the kernel. And yet it's a power hog compared to just not using the laptop and letting the display backlight turn off, roughly 1% battery life loss per hour in S2idle. Whereas it's about 0.5% battery life loss per hour in whatever Windows 10 is doing for laptop lid close.
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