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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by loa-in-backup »

kansi wrote: post #452

Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to re…

The only thing I use Chrome for is deeeep.io . It works better in Chrome. Everything else is Firefox

E: too many e's

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by bhauer »

yorwba wrote: post #377
bhauer wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Safari's "omnibar" is superior to Firefox's. Safari actually suggests web sites, which I use all the time. Wikipedia is a major one. Start typing "Richard Fey", for example, and the first hit will be the Wikipedia page for Richard Feynman, complete with a short summary and photo. Firefox forces me through a Google search. I don't use a Mac, so I am not sure if there are other features of the Safari omnibar which ar…

> but I have another that does a Wikipedia search if I don't feel like typing the whole name of an article. You don't really need two bookmarks for that. Wikipedia will redirect to the article if the search string happens to be exactly the same.

Nice, thank you!

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by fencepost »

wslh wrote: post #496
kansi wrote: post #452

Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to re…

> I have read comments in this thread suggesting that FF's performance is not that snappy but I cannot seem to notice any difference. I tried to switch from Chrome to Firefox a few months ago but I had a terrible experience using Hangouts with a customer for two hours. The Firefox degraded until a point of no return and that sucks when you are talking with a customer. I initially blamed the network but there was no s…

When using a Google property (particularly a niche/slated for death property), expect it to work better in Google's own browser.

I'm not sure which is likely to be lower ranked at Google - Edge compatibility for all those end users for whom changing browsers is too difficult or Firefox where compatibility is probably easy but the users can probably figure out the message of "works better with OEM branded components (or browsers)!"

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by roxya »

vardump wrote: post #533
kansi wrote: post #452

Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to re…

Firefox has improved tremendously. But I guess some people are still missing their favorite features. For me it's pinch zooming. I've been waiting for it for ages. It's the last issue keeping me from leaving Chrome. Just tried newest Firefox on macOS and Windows 10, and sadly it still didn't work on either. This feature is great for hiding flashing sidebars and distracting navigation bars. And of course zooming in oc…

For me it's right-click, Translate to English.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by Angostura »

kakarot wrote: post #620
bad_user wrote: post #595

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not the same thing. First of all lawful companies don't do anything that isn't in the terms of service, that being the legal contract that describes your relationship with the company. Otherwise you can sue them. I'm in the EU and in my country there are state agencies that protect the consumer and handle the suing. Filling a complaint for me is easy and I've had great results in the past. This is why even an up…

> First of all lawful companies don't do anything that isn't in the terms of service, that being the legal contract that describes your relationship with the company I'm gonna stop you right there, because a ToC can only enforce certain provisions and companies can change their ToC anytime they want, as per their ToC. It also does not explicitly prohibit them from doing anything not on the ToC, just as it wouldn't pr…

> I'm gonna stop you right there, because a ToC can only enforce certain provisions and companies can change their ToC anytime they want, as per their ToC.

At which point they tell you that they have changed their ToCs

> It also does not explicitly prohibit them from doing anything not on the ToC, just as it wouldn't prohibit a user from doing something not covered by the ToC.

Which is why you check the ToCs to ensure that main classes of poor behaviour that you want to avoid are included in there.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by Copernicron »

bayindirh wrote: post #526
bad_user wrote: post #480

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “ I am tired of listening to people screaming their lungs out about privacy when their actions don't reflect their opinions. ” Those screaming for privacy, like myself, are in fact a small minority. Also regardless of the topic, double standards are rampant in this community. You’ll often see people screaming against Google but still using @gmail.com because paying for a domain and the price of one coffee per month…

The problem with GMail is, it's too convenient to use, and relatively secure because of 2FA support. Also, people (including me) think that some newsletters, some bills and receipts are not very personal, so people don't care. I have two main addresses, one is from a local provider and my all financial e-mails and other stuff is coming to that e-mail address, however they don't encrypt anything. I also just got a fre…

> Paid e-mail addresses are not meaningless, but they're harder to justify in most people's eyes.

It's not just paid email addresses. It's paid anything. My father constantly pesters me to tell him where he can get free movies, music, software and so on. He wanted to know where he could make unlimited online backups for free and I told him that stuff costs money. Somehow people have gotten it in their heads that if it's on the internet it's free and they shouldn't have to pay for anything.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by pdimitar »

wvenable wrote: post #84
pdimitar wrote: post #22

Firefox is still slow on a very beefy Win10 PC and a MacBook Pro 2015, if you have more than 7-8 tabs open. I keep giving Firefox a chance but not much is changing. Not sure if the rewrite in Rust was worth it.

Firefox is only browser where multi-row tabs works -- all other browsers are impossible to navigate with more than 8 tabs open. I frequently have 30+ tabs open in Firefox (sometimes as much 100). That being said, Firefox has a bunch of small performance / hang issues that have nothing to do with the number of tabs but add up over time.

I might have mistaken the cause for my lagging problems but in any case the nagging feeling of Firefox being laggy and not always very responsive is there, and as you said it adds up over time.

I mentioned in another sibling comment of mine that my 2nd gen i7 CPU was very heavily hit by all Spectre and Meltdown mitigation fixes and is noticeably slower now. Still though, Chrome works snappily and Firefox does not. :(

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by criddell »

totfz wrote: post #398
feanaro wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think modern Firefox is a much better browser than Chrome though, but Mozilla certainly lost the PR war and to no fault but their own, because Firefox sure sucked for a long while. This gets said often, but I've been using Firefox continually since 2003 and I've never noticed it sucking.

If you haven't used Chrome, no wonder you haven't noticed Firefox sucking. But a side-to-side speed and responsiveness comparison of Chrome and Firefox is unfair even today.

Neither browser sucks. They are both quite good.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by lkbm »

kansi wrote: post #452

Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to re…

> I have read comments in this thread suggesting that FF's performance is not that snappy but I cannot seem to notice any difference.

I use Firefox (Nightly) on a 2015 MBP and I do think it feels less snappy than Chrome.

If it didn't have Container tabs, I might switch back to Chrome, despite very much wanting Firefox to succeed. Performance is key.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by cpeterso »

roxya wrote: post #634
vardump wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox has improved tremendously. But I guess some people are still missing their favorite features. For me it's pinch zooming. I've been waiting for it for ages. It's the last issue keeping me from leaving Chrome. Just tried newest Firefox on macOS and Windows 10, and sadly it still didn't work on either. This feature is great for hiding flashing sidebars and distracting navigation bars. And of course zooming in oc…

For me it's right-click, Translate to English.

There are Firefox extensions to integrate Google Translate for right click on text or web page:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=Google%20...

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