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Re: Siri AI

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Post by Planktonne »

abustamam wrote: post #617
Planktonne wrote: post #573

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> Siri turn off the main light in children's bedroom This is a fascinating example. You would initially assume it's just inconvenient versus flipping a switch--this can't be labour-saving by default. The only way it makes sense is if you're doing it remotely; from another room, you're putting your children to bed. That's even weirder though, because you're taking what should be a moment of connection/care and trying…

We buy technology for the convenience it gets us. When we can't rely on technology doing what it promised for us then we complain because we spent money on something that doesn't work as advertised. Even worse when it did work before and no longer does. In any case, OPs reasons for wanting to turn off any light in any of their rooms are unknown to us. Maybe they took their kids out to breakfast and realized they forg…

The OP has already given us context that makes your contrived example unlikely: they want to turn off just the main light, and in a specific bedroom. My extrapolation was reasonable, yours is a reach.

There's no reason to hunt for a poor parallel to shut down discussion.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by ml-anon »

zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

there is this bullshit term you hear paraded about the dwarkesh-adjacent circles: "capability overhang". Aside from being effectively meaningless jargon, there is a kernel of an idea that somehow the models are far more capable than what "normies" use them for.

Well, I think Siri AI puts this notion firmly to rest. Yes, if you have unlimited tokens and well-posed problems you can solve open Erdos problems. However, if you have meaningful real-world computational and reliability constraints then you better just stick to "summarize my messages and find the dogs in my photos".

And this isn't just Gemini, I can burn effectively unlimited Opus tokens and still get garbage code out or be run around in circles without very diligent oversight.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by torben-friis »

zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

OPPO just added a great feature into my phone. You point your camera at a foreign restaurant menu and it generates a translated version including a picture so you can get a general idea of what it usually looks like.

The genius part is that the menu is interactive, so you can add items to a shopping cart, which then results in a local language text you can show to waiters asking them for your full order.

It was a great sample of how even a little bit of ux can go a long way.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by sidcool »

How come Apple has become so slow in shopping compared to equivalent companies like Google and Microsoft

Re: Siri AI

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Post by ml-anon »

waterhouse wrote: post #484
teiferer wrote: post #475

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> eg: if my booking is wrong, they will cover the cost and compensate me That would be nice, but it's the wrong angle. The reason people like real secretaries is not because somebody is compensated when things go wrong. It's because things don't go wrong. I don't use this thing if I need to fear things go wrong, even if I'd be compensated. Maybe it would provide the right incentives for the companies though.

Surely, if the compensation was high enough, you'd be like, "Sure, I'm happy with that outcome." And then, if the AI company thinks they have a low enough failure rate that the expected cost of paying out the compensation still lets them make a profit, then they could make that promise to all customers. Though a compensation that high sounds like it would invite fraud, where the customer would be glad to have somethi…

they are literally burning billions of dollars and can presumably keep doing this for a while. Taking a trivial amount of additional financial liability to launder their reputation wouldn't meaningfully improve things.

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Post by smartbit »

layer8 wrote: post #110
aurareturn wrote: post #51

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This is why OpenAI thinks it needs to build its own physical devices. If Apple is only allowing its own AI to operate at the OS level, then that leaves OpenAI with no choice but to build their own. Meta also realized this and attempted multiple times to build their own hardware but they've given up each time. They started as early as a partnering with HTC in 2011 to make a Facebook phone. Quite frankly, I'm kind of e…

> If Apple is only allowing its own AI to operate at the OS level Incidentally, that’s what’s preventing Apple from rolling out their OS-privileged AI in the EU, as the EU mandates equal access for competing AI products. It will be interesting how this plays out.

Indeed according to Apple https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de... when allowing equal access for competing AI products

> Apple would have to give any virtual assistant direct access to users’ private data — and the ability to directly control other installed applications — as soon as Siri AI is made available in the EU

Re: Siri AI

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Post by jon-wood »

djaro wrote: post #569
Snoddas wrote: post #546

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I think you are wrong. They never asked for one becase they never imagined being able to afford one. The amount of administration organizing a normal household takes I suspect most would be glad to leave to someon/something they trust and that can be held accountable. Today that someone needs to be a person (imo). But who knows, a startup may be plotting accountable digital assistans as we speak.

I think theres some real use cases in the household department. I would love an AI that I just tell my nutrition goals (I want to eat X calories, Y protein, Z fiber, hit all vitamins) and it just generates a full meal plan for me each day. Like, I go to the store and it made the complete shopping list for me. And automatically updates the rest of the day if I tell it I skipped a meal or ate a snack.

I get where you're coming from but at least for me you appear to be looking to automate away the interesting bits while being left with the tedious ones. What I want is the opposite to what you're asking for - let me dump a rough meal plan into whatever thing is doing this giving an overview of what meals I want to cook this week and then have it go place an order with the supermarket for delivery of the necessary ingredients taking into account what I've got in the house already.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by le-mark »

bilsbie wrote: post #56

The killer app would be a locally run Siri that learns about you and your preferences.

Llms don’t learn after they’re trained. At the most it could maintain a profile or some such. Which may be the equivalent of what you mean, but not as provocative.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by silversmith »

nixpulvis wrote: post #271
silversmith wrote: post #229

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Keepassxc is local first and has password history. Check it out before building.

It didn't have a good sync story when I checked last.

Still does not. My approach is to keep the file in OneDrive. On windows / mac it's just a file, on android it's via custom onedrive protocol handler but also seamless.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by saagarjha »

tanmaydesh5189 wrote: post #169
crancher wrote: post #67

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I think the key thing is that Spotlight is now creating a... knowledge graph? of everything on your device for Siri's consideration. That's potentially very useful.

I suspect it is Kuzu in the backend. I had called it out earlier this year in my article. ".. WWDC 2026 or 2027 introduces any “contextual intelligence” features in Siri that require cross-app relationship reasoning." https://medium.com/data-science-collective/i-analyzed-163k-l...

I can't read the whole thing but Apple has been building a knowledge graph for years already. Look up their efforts for proactive Siri, Duet, etc.
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