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Re: Siri AI

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Post by harrouet »

zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

Spot on!

I am also under the impression that the LLM tech is plateauing before bringing the promised productivity. Great as a coding assistant, great a summarizing a text, translating, great a helping plan a trip...

But for the rest, e.g. act as a life assistant, it is still far off with no hope to reach the desired performance level.

I would not be surprisd to see OpenAI and the likes to start reverting to Siri v1 strategies, i.e. "if this then that" kind of agent routing.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by kingreflex »

for olders iphone models - i am on 15 - are they allowing any sort of extensions? that would allow some apps to make use of of to build things like better speech recognition etc..

i was waiting for siri update and bummed it is not supported on 15.

when i use my native language (i mostly do it when in carplay) to search songs etc.. it gets it wrong a lot of times.

+ a more integrated into things like imessages, whatsapp etc..

Re: Siri AI

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Post by camillomiller »

Geee wrote: post #477

No, I don't want Apple to read all my emails, text messages and photos. I'm probably not going to buy Apple devices any more if it really works like this, by default sending all your data into their cloud. If I want to use AI, I want to be able to select the exact messages / photos which I want to send to it. Otherwise I expect the device to keep the data protected. I don't need any of these features either; I can re…

You might want to so some research. It’s the only company with a level of privacy on this. Most of it is on-device. Private cloud compute does not store anything. I dunno man, you could criticize 360 aspects of this presentation but you pick privacy, really?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by waterhouse »

teiferer wrote: post #475
zmmmmm wrote: post #469

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's an interesting question if any of the AI companies would be willing to step up and absorb the risk ie: to give the AI agent a "stake". eg: if my booking is wrong, they will cover the cost and compensate me. It would sort of just come down to buying premium travel insurance for everyone that uses it. And insurance for anything else they do. It has to be one of two things - they either believe the risks are worth…

> eg: if my booking is wrong, they will cover the cost and compensate me That would be nice, but it's the wrong angle. The reason people like real secretaries is not because somebody is compensated when things go wrong. It's because things don't go wrong. I don't use this thing if I need to fear things go wrong, even if I'd be compensated. Maybe it would provide the right incentives for the companies though.

Surely, if the compensation was high enough, you'd be like, "Sure, I'm happy with that outcome." And then, if the AI company thinks they have a low enough failure rate that the expected cost of paying out the compensation still lets them make a profit, then they could make that promise to all customers.

Though a compensation that high sounds like it would invite fraud, where the customer would be glad to have something go "wrong" and get a fat check. Not sure if that's a solvable problem.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by zombot »

kristianc wrote: post #465
zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

An alien landing on earth consuming Apple marketing content would be under the impression that humans did nothing but organise hikes to Big Sur with their friends.

That would be deceptively constructive and healthy compared to doom-scrolling instagram or tictoc while clogging the intertubes with AI slop.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by wahnfrieden »

skylurk wrote: post #476
zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

For fun I planned a holiday entirely with LLM's lately, and followed through. It used good models and did a lot of searching, including searches in other languages. It got nothing right, riddled with fake places and times. It also found some weird and unique places I never would have considered. I had a blast, brought me back to traveling pre-internet, requiring a level of spontaneity I had forgotten we used to depen…

What was a “good model” and harness? I would expect decent results using say Codex with 5.5 xhigh to research and verify an itinerary. 5.5 Pro with search would also be promising.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by conradfr »

rafaelmn wrote: post #384
s3p wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jokes aside, I have been using siri to control my smart home and set my alarm for nearly ten years now. I haven't really had problems with basic stuff like this.

>Siri turn off the main light in children's bedroom 100% of the time turns of all the lights in children's bedroom. Alexa has no problem with this. Disappointing to say the least. Completely useless, I was going to get an Android this year on upgrade cycle. Will check this out first.

I press a switch on the wall.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by dyauspitr »

zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

I sometimes do random weeklong roadtrips. ChatGPT is the best way to do this. Attractions that are esoteric, RV parks with 50A hookups for under $50, oldest/biggest/best restaurant with local food in a town, historical stops along the way, suburbs close to big cities but where hotel prices are lower etc.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by pookieinc »

skylurk wrote: post #476
zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

For fun I planned a holiday entirely with LLM's lately, and followed through. It used good models and did a lot of searching, including searches in other languages. It got nothing right, riddled with fake places and times. It also found some weird and unique places I never would have considered. I had a blast, brought me back to traveling pre-internet, requiring a level of spontaneity I had forgotten we used to depen…

To counter, we did the same with a trip to Copenhagen for 7 days and it got most paths correct. Train routes, places to visit with kids, restaurants, reservations, weather, most of it was great. There were a couple mistakes of course here and there, thankfully we did our due diligence, but by and large, we plan to do this for future trips.
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