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Re: Gemini 3

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Out of curiosity, I gave it the latest project euler problem published on 11/16/2025, very likely out of the training data Gemini thought for 5m10s before giving me a python snippet that produced the correct answer. The leaderboard says that the 3 fastest human to solve this problem took 14min, 20min and 1h14min respectively Even thought I expect this sort of problem to very much be in the distribution of what the mo…

Your post made me curious to try a problem I have been coming back to ever since ChatGPT was first released: https://open.kattis.com/problems/low I have had no success using LLM's to solve this particular problem until trying Gemini 3 just now despite solutions to it existing in the training data. This has been my personal litmus test for testing out LLM programming capabilities and a model finally passed.

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Re: Gemini 3

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The subtle "wiggle" animation that the second hand makes after moving doesn't fire when it hits 12. Literally unwatchable.

The Swiss and German railway clocks actually work the same way and stop for (half a?) second while the minute handle progresses. https://youtu.be/wejbVtj4YR0

Station clocks in Switzerland receive a signal from a master clock each minute that advances the minute hand, the seconds hand moves completely independent from the minute hand. This allows them to sync to the minute.

> The station clocks in Switzerland are synchronised by receiving an electrical impulse from a central master clock at each full minute, advancing the minute hand by one minute. The second hand is driven by an electrical motor independent of the master clock. It takes only about 58.5 seconds to circle the face; then the hand pauses briefly at the top of the clock. It starts a new rotation as soon as it receives the next minute impulse from the master clock.[3] This movement is emulated in some of the licensed timepieces made by Mondaine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_railway_clock

Re: Gemini 3

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> Since then, it’s been incredible to see how much people love it. AI Overviews now have 2 billion users every month. Come on, you can’t be serious.

This is so disingenuous that it hurts the credibility of the whole thing.

Re: Gemini 3

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post #293

Out of curiosity, I gave it the latest project euler problem published on 11/16/2025, very likely out of the training data Gemini thought for 5m10s before giving me a python snippet that produced the correct answer. The leaderboard says that the 3 fastest human to solve this problem took 14min, 20min and 1h14min respectively Even thought I expect this sort of problem to very much be in the distribution of what the mo…

I also used Gemini 3 Pro Preview. It finished it 271s = 4m31s. Sadly, the answer was wrong. It also returned 8 "sources", like stackexchange.com, youtube.com, mpmath.org, ncert.nic.in, and kangaroo.org.pk, even though I specifically told it not to use websearch. Still a useful tool though. It definitely gets the majority of the insights. Prompt: https://aistudio.google.com/app/prompts?state=%7B%22ids%22:%...

> It also returned 8 "sources"

well, there's your problem. it behaves like a search summary tool and not like a problem solver if you enable google search

Re: Gemini 3

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post #450

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I'm not explaining myself right. Stockfish is a superhuman chess program. It's routinely used in chess analysis as "ground truth": if Stockfish says you've made a mistake, it's almost certain you did in fact make a mistake[0]. Also, because it's incomparably stronger than even the very best humans, sometimes the moves it suggests are extremely counterintuitive and it would be unrealistic to expect a human to find the…

You explained yourself right. The issue is that you keep qualifying your statements. > it suggests are extremely counterintuitive and it would be unrealistic to expect a human to find them... > ... in tournament conditions. I'm suggesting that I'd like to see the ones that humans have found - outside of tournament conditions. Perhaps the gulf between us arises from an unspoken reference to solutions "unrealistic to e…

I can wreck stockfish in chess boxing. Mostly because stockfish can't box, and it's easy for me to knock over a computer.

Re: Gemini 3

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post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not explaining myself right. Stockfish is a superhuman chess program. It's routinely used in chess analysis as "ground truth": if Stockfish says you've made a mistake, it's almost certain you did in fact make a mistake[0]. Also, because it's incomparably stronger than even the very best humans, sometimes the moves it suggests are extremely counterintuitive and it would be unrealistic to expect a human to find the…

You explained yourself right. The issue is that you keep qualifying your statements. > it suggests are extremely counterintuitive and it would be unrealistic to expect a human to find them... > ... in tournament conditions. I'm suggesting that I'd like to see the ones that humans have found - outside of tournament conditions. Perhaps the gulf between us arises from an unspoken reference to solutions "unrealistic to e…

The point of that qualifier is that you can expect to see weird moves outside of tournament conditions because casual games are when people experiment when that kind of thing.

Re: Gemini 3

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Well, I tried a variation of a prompt I was messing with in Flash 2.5 the other day in a thread about AI-coded analog clock faces. Gemini Pro 3 Preview gave me a result far beyond what I saw with Flash 2.5, and got it right in a single shot.[0] I can't say I'm not impressed, even though it's a pretty constrained example. > Please generate an analog clock widget, synchronized to actual system time, with hands that upd…

This is quite likely to be in the training data, since it's one of the projects in Wes Bos's free 30 days of Javascript course[0]. [0] https://javascript30.com/

I was under the impression for this to work like that, training data needs to be plenty. One project is not enough since it’s too "sparse".

But maybe this example was used by many other people and so it proliferated?

Re: Gemini 3

#628

Is there a way to use this without being in the whole google ecosystem? Just make a new account or something?

If you mean the "consumer ecosystem", then Gemini 3 should be available as an API through Google's AI Vertex platform. If you don't even want a Google Cloud account, then I think the answer is no unless they announce a partnership with an inference cloud like cerebras.

Re: Gemini 3

#629

Has anyone who is a regular Opus / GPT5-Codex-High / GPT5 Pro user given this model a workout? Each Google release is accompanied by a lot of devrel marketing that sounds impressive but whenever I put the hours into eval myself it comes up lacking. Would love to hear that it replaces another frontier model for someone who is not already bought into the Gemini ecosystem.

I've been working with it, and so far it's been very impressive. Better than Opus in my feels, but I have to test more, it's super early days

Re: Gemini 3

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I love it that there's a "Read AI-generated summary" button on their post about their new AI. I can only expect that the next step is something like "Have your AI read our AI's auto-generated summary", and so forth until we are all the way at Douglas Adams's Electric Monk: > The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. Dishwashers washed tedious dishes for you, thus saving you…

SMBC had a pretty great take on this: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/summary

This feels too real to laugh at
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