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This essentially killed my (EU-based) startup in the project management and collaborate space. Before MSFT bundled Teams with O365 we were rapidly growing and closing enterprise customers in the automotive, energy and education industries with high retention rates. Right around the time the Teams bundling started our retention dropped, churn went through the roof, growth slowed down, we failed to raise our next round…
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I don't think you know the meaning of the world suffering. And data science and IT infra/support are different career choices that differ around skills and education rather than choice of OS vendor. Those jobs are not interchangeable.
Sure, if they are happy with those tradeoffs, that's good for them.
And where I live .NET jobs are far more abundant and better paid than DS jobs which are few and have loads of coopetition from newgrads due to all they hype they genrated.
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How do you define "not related" - why would a collaboration tool not be considered part of something called "office suite"? Also to the parent's point, why is it that Google are allowed to bundle Meet as part of their Google Workspace - it does seem like the violations are only applied based on retroactive decisions.
Generally, you define a market by the market participants. There are people who need only the the office suite, and there are those who need the office suite and the colab chat but not necessarily by the same provider. This is visible by the fact that you have colab software providers like slack/zoom. Microsoft is targeted at the moment because they are market leader on the office suite market and they are leveraging…
team communication seems like a core feature of an office suite in 2024 just like those other features feel like core parts of an OS in 2024
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Because companies were already paying for it. Where I work now moved to Teams and they openly said it's not as good as Zoom, but we need to move because we're already paying for Office and so it doesn't make financial sense to pay for an additional duplicate service.
That seems to be the reason for a lot of services. Amazon/YouTube/Apple/etc. Music don't need to be better than Spotify, but just good enough that someone won't pay for a competitor. This limits the competitors potential revenue and helps keep them from growing into stronger competition. Plus, you use your market incumbency to stifle competition in other ways (e.g., putting advertisements for Apple Music in settings)…
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Sure, if they are happy with those tradeoffs, that's good for them.
Even if otherwise, it's not like you can move from .NET dev to DS jobs on a whim whithout any kind of experience or specialization. And where I live .NET jobs are far more abundant and better paid than DS jobs which are few and have loads of coopetition from newgrads due to all they hype they genrated.
Also development is a global market nowadays so that makes it even worse for this kind of jobs since they don't usually offer a remote option. It's telling that you say "where I live", where I live there's just no development job at all actually.
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> Why is excel and word any more connected than teams and excel or teams and word? Or even outlook? If outlook can be grouped with “office suite”, and EU didn’t have a problem with that, why not Teams? It's not. The argument you're replying to is remarkably similar to the ones in the EU+Apple threads: Why should iOS be considered a "general purpose" OS? Because people consider it as such. Why isn't Xbox or Switch a "…
The gatekeeper criteria are open. Could you precise mention which criteria is bad instead of making strong assumptions? I don't see why Spotify is a gate keeper. You have e.g. Deezer or Apple Music and you can switch very easily.
I already know how this will be solved: Microsoft will pay a (small) fine and file it under "the cost of doing business" while the damage is already done. Teams is one of the absolutely worst products ever programmed, it's hiliarious how bad it is. It only reached its market share because Microsoft gave it away "for free" with Office 365 or MS 365 or whatever it's called now.
I use Teams every day for work, I'm not sure why it's considered so bad? It seems user friendly and useful, to me. Non-tech worker (finance).
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The gatekeeper criteria are open. Could you precise mention which criteria is bad instead of making strong assumptions? I don't see why Spotify is a gate keeper. You have e.g. Deezer or Apple Music and you can switch very easily.
Spotify is the "gatekeeper" standing between listeners and musicians, like how OS vendors are "gatekeepers" standing between users and developers.
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Because companies were already paying for it. Where I work now moved to Teams and they openly said it's not as good as Zoom, but we need to move because we're already paying for Office and so it doesn't make financial sense to pay for an additional duplicate service.
That seems to be the reason for a lot of services. Amazon/YouTube/Apple/etc. Music don't need to be better than Spotify, but just good enough that someone won't pay for a competitor. This limits the competitors potential revenue and helps keep them from growing into stronger competition. Plus, you use your market incumbency to stifle competition in other ways (e.g., putting advertisements for Apple Music in settings)…
What will it take to make these companies realise I'm perfectly happy with my current music streaming service and I don't want theirs regardless of the price it's offered at? I find it very disrespectful as a user when software can't take 'no' for an answer; my 'no' isn't 'maybe if you wear me down with enough nag screens' it means 'no I'm not interested please go away'.
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Why are you so upset that people derive a lot of value from Windows? Enough that they want to keep using it, and defend it because they don't agree with the "everything is broken" meme.
Because like industrial waste, Windows exports problems to other systems. 1. Windows has an absurdly short maximum path length of 260 characters. 2. On Windows, moving files to a temporary directory can fail, if the temporary directory has a longer prefix than the original path. 3. When uninstalling, the python utility "pip" first collects files into a temporary directory, then deletes that temporary directory. 4. To…
This is something that languages/runtimes with more effort put into portability already handle for you:
https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/win...
If Python doesn't do this it's just because the sort of people who write Python don't care about Windows enough to fix it.