S.F. says incidents by Cruise, Waymo driverless taxis are ‘skyrocketing.’

Post by blendo » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 8:31 PM UTC

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I hadn't even considered a bike in SF due to the rampant theft, despite not having a car and taking MUNI/BART daily. And SF is not alone in this. As a country we need to figure out how to bring out crime levels down. The few times I do call an Uber (or Waymo/Cruise if available), I am likely intoxicated or needing to get somewhere ASAP. We are very far away from public transit always be faster and biking while intoxi…

When I lived there, I used the bike share bikes often. They're widely available and eliminate having to worry about theft and locks.

Post by nerdbert » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 9:26 PM UTC

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They work for the majority of people of all ages who live in cities where the infrastructure has been properly built to accommodate bikes. Most people rarely need to haul anything and can use carshare when they do. I've demoed a multistory house down to the bricks and re-built it from the outside in without a car. Hired someone to haul off a dumpster several times. For major materials deliveries, like beams or window…

> Most people rarely need to haul anything Clearly, you have never been a performing musician. I'm not either anymore, btw. I gave up that dream long ago. It wasn't because I was broke (I was broke, but that wasn't the reason), it was because I found out that I'm not a good musician compared to the folks who pass through Austin, TX. I wasn't even close.

Post by nerdbert » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 9:36 PM UTC

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They work for the majority of people of all ages who live in cities where the infrastructure has been properly built to accommodate bikes. Most people rarely need to haul anything and can use carshare when they do. I've demoed a multistory house down to the bricks and re-built it from the outside in without a car. Hired someone to haul off a dumpster several times. For major materials deliveries, like beams or window…

> Most people rarely need to haul anything and can use carshare when they do. Let me guess. You are single or in couple without kids ?

Post by uoaei » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 11:43 PM UTC

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> A 60lb e-bike can also transport a 200 lb person whilst using far less resources (both to make the vehicle and to operate it) and space. E-bikes are great for the situations, climates, and people who can use them. E-bikes are not a substitute for the majority of people’s transportation needs. I think the young, healthy people who live in moderate climates with good weather, short commutes, and little need to haul a…

Not only that, but clearly they don't live in outback, rural areas. They live in high cost of living cities. Old estimates claim that 55% of the worlds occupants live in urban areas, while 45% live in rural areas. The proposed solution leaves nearly half the population of the world shit out of luck.

Post by uoaei » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 11:50 PM UTC

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sorry, confused > their terrible public safety record whose public safety record? the politicians'? or, who would even be materially interested to lobby against robocars and Google? honest q. automakers seem to be generally onboard with robocars and trying their own. Cabbies have been wiped out as a force by Uber. Even Uber seems generally onboard with robocars. So who is this mysterious powerful Luddite villain?

SF anti-tech “activists.” I was going to post a sarcastic description, but I’ll just say they tend to have a lot of student debt and are frequently devoted Marxists. They also tend to sincerely believe that if tech imploded, the homeless would all suddenly be able to afford apartments.