reddit like is 4chan with ads, is there anything worse than that? Let it burn
Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?
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Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?
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I think you're right, partly. But I also think that a lot of the people who put up with it are the passive ones who don't really contribute much to communities anyway; they're just there. The people who do the real contributing—posting, modding, defining the culture and building the communities that Reddit benefits from—are, as far as I can tell, more likely to get a lot angrier about abusive corporate nonsense, simp…
> The people who do the real contributing—posting, modding, defining the culture and building the communities that Reddit benefits from—are, as far as I can tell, more likely to get a lot angrier about abusive corporate nonsense, simply because they're more invested. I suspect strongly that these people have been purged already over the past 2-3 years. You simply don't hear much about it, because de-platforming them…
I commented about a month back how the /r/programming seemed dead in the last two years compared to Hacker News. It’s not even close to what it used to be, and I suspect the new design and other bad choices contributed to that. It’s like the really good programmers who made interesting comments I learned from left. But of course I was downvoted and someone said HN users are “probably inept nerds like me”.
Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?
#623Is there a self-hosted alternative for Reddit to migrate a single community?
If you don't need it to be a Reddit like experience with posts/threaded comments bad just want the community then Discord is pretty nice. On the pros the moderation tools are amazing and bots are first class citizens. Events are really nice for organizing stuff, A+ code formatting. Search is kinda bad but not worse than Reddit. They do have a posts thing now but it seems seldom used and not as nice as arbitrarily nes…
Tree-shaped threads is exactly what I need.
Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?
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I never wanted to use the reddit app. Must have caved and installed it one day. I use it now, and it doesnt feel different from the site. Say what you want about HN, but at least the contrarians bring out opposing views. The bigger reddit subs have a mob mentality that use to annoy me, and now scares me. People are itching for a chance to hate, and pile on from every angle. It's childish, naive, and most of all vindi…
> The bigger reddit subs have a mob mentality that use to annoy me, and now scares me. It has gotten way worse right? Or is it me getting older? Many subs are like sects with a razor thin point of view allowed that is shifting constantly. It feels like insane people are pushing every BS problem as a do or die proposition and that those are dominating.
Especially /r/iOS is a sub that will downvote you for pointing out objectively true facts (not opinion based).
Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?
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"Install the app" walls might be super effective at destroying reengagement, though. I gave in and installed the Reddit app, but it simply doesn't work well enough or transition well enough from a Google search into the app. Would definitely engage a lot more with Reddit if only the app pushing nonsense were gone, and that's as a user who does have the app installed.
When Reddit first tried pushing their mobile app I gave it a try, but it was so horrible I decided to stay on web. But they kept degrading the web experience, so I quit Reddit on mobile until discovering Apollo. At this point I don’t browse on desktop, and with Apollo being shut down, I don’t think I’ll be back.
Same for me but with RIF.
RIF is reddit to me, if they stick to it and block API access I'll log on one last time to delete my account.
Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?
#626There's something that I don't get about forcing mobile browser users into mobile apps - how does it make sense for the company? They're forcing themselves into a walled garden, where the gardener takes a hefty "app store tax" on your revenues and has countless levers to force you to style the app how it suits their interests, not yours. For some apps, this might still be the best way to gain traction. But if have al…
It’s the same reason as the third-party app API changes: prevailing forces within the company want to know that for every X API requests made, Y targeted ads were put in front of eyeballs. Most mobile browsers can block ads at this point. Plus, native apps offer more ways of gathering user data opaquely, which is worth lots of money in the eyes of finance people even if they haven’t started doing it, or if they expec…
They could have changed their API or keys to require an adserve API included and given the app makers time to adapt to the new setup.
Premium users would only see the ads from Reddit, where non-premium would also have seen ads from the app maker.
It would have increased the ads shown to users, added more money into reddit's pocket, and increased the liklihood of users paying cash for the platform while pissing off fewer people.
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I don't know about this argument. "Everyone else is doing it so there are no alternatives." I believe less in this argument every year. * There are alternatives. Like for me it's Mastodon, IRC, SDF and the Tildes. Now there's this thing Lemmy bouncing around out there which is a straight up federated clone of Reddit. Are they all kind of different from Reddit yeah, are they smaller yeah, so what? The alternative is y…
I would add a small counterpoint to your second point. For me, reddit is becoming pretty essential in my life. Since Google has been taken over by blogspam and ads, I struggle to find reviews or opinions of things I buy or use. I use google to search reddit to find comments relating to thing I'm interested in. Those comments might be astroturfing or paid support too, but it's easier to sus that out by searching past…
Well, considering Reddit is becoming infested with bots now, I’d say Reddit is next after the Google takeover.
Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?
#628Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would add a small counterpoint to your second point. For me, reddit is becoming pretty essential in my life. Since Google has been taken over by blogspam and ads, I struggle to find reviews or opinions of things I buy or use. I use google to search reddit to find comments relating to thing I'm interested in. Those comments might be astroturfing or paid support too, but it's easier to sus that out by searching past…
Well, considering Reddit is becoming infested with bots now, I’d say Reddit is next after the Google takeover.
Such is the way of the internet. Something will form to counteract that when it turns to shit. It's no where close yet though!
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The issue is for every person like you and me, there are 10 or 100 others who put up with this crap, and reddit attracts people, centralizing communities, giving you little option for alternatives. It drains activities from forums, etc, toward itself as it is presented as a more convenient solution. I for one will try to undo my past contributions to accelerate its decline. The blackout is unlikely to work, but I hop…
I think you're right, partly. But I also think that a lot of the people who put up with it are the passive ones who don't really contribute much to communities anyway; they're just there. The people who do the real contributing—posting, modding, defining the culture and building the communities that Reddit benefits from—are, as far as I can tell, more likely to get a lot angrier about abusive corporate nonsense, simp…
By that time, these guys will cash out and leave.
Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?
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It's interesting everything trying to be TikTok. As a user, if I wanted TikTok i'd use TikTok. I don't want TikTok, so I don't use TikTok. I use Facebook mainly for hobby/owners groups these days as that's where a lot of them are. I sometimes use the market place. My feed is mainly my interests, motorbikes, local events, local cafes/restaurants etc etc. Then there's reels i never interact with which get forced on me…
This just seems to be the strategy they teach at business school, and it never works. I remember in the 2000s, all these mmos were popping up saying they were the "WoW killer". Um, no, people who play WoW already play WoW, and you are really trying to convince everyone who doesn't want to play WoW to play a game that is designed to be very similar. It never made any sense. But I guess if you are a business exec, and…
Blizzard spent $100,000,000 building the first version of WoW. They captured most of the other MMO players. Every company that claimed to be the next "WoW killer" had a budget that was basically "3 bent paperclips and some bellybutton lint". No one was willing to make the content.