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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by ajmurmann »

PM_me_your_math wrote: post #571
cheeseblubber wrote: post #529

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

Speaking from experience, if you go walking the Bronx Concourse at 2am, you are getting robbed at gun point.

A big difference between SF (and Portland for that matter) and other US cities seems to be that there is no clear line between "the good parts" of town and "the bad parts". You know the Bronx Concourse is bad, but in SF it's less clear which part isn't bad. Even 14 years ago I had friends visit from LA who walked 1 or 2 blocks in the wrong direction from Union Square and felt unsafe enough that they walked into a store and called a taxi to not have to walk "back to safety".

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by cmh89 »

churchill wrote: post #590
aEJ04Izw5HYm wrote: post #555

Can we take a minute to re-direct this conversation away from just the politics of SF? I want to draw attention to Bob Lee, a well-respected technologist and prototype hacker, always curious and sharing lots of interesting technical developments. He was a great role model for how Engineers should be respected in an executive capacity as he advanced his career from 'Software' to 'Product'. His efforts contributed to t…

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San Francisco isn't anywhere close to most dangerous city in the United States. Do you have any data to support your argument that the 'catch and release' policy creates substantially more danger than traditional American judicial policies?

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by laweijfmvo »

ren_engineer wrote: post #492
joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

I work remote and hearing some of my coworkers try to defend SF is like hearing a battered woman defend their abusive husband, "it's not that bad really, you just need to do X, if you get robbed you probably deserved it for Y" boggles my mind that people can rationalize things like not being able to leave bags in their car or they'll get their windows smashed and their stuff stolen. People in other places don't have…

Name a city in the US where you can objectively feel safe at any time and any part? I’ve never been to such a place.

Outside the US, maybe.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by coldsauce »

arzanr wrote: post #581

Everyone commenting on here about how bad things are in SF has likely rarely or never stepped into the core parts of Protrero Hill, Noe Valley, Richmond, Sunset, Glenn Park, Forest Hill etc. SF is a tale of two cities divided by natural barriers. There is a side to the city where you see almost no drugs, or homelessness. This is not a dismissal of the real issues facing the city but an acknowledgement that it is stil…

While I agree those areas are much nicer, most people still need to commute to go work in, and spend considerable amount of time in soma, fidi, etc.

I used to live in one of those areas you talk about, yet still was attacked and threatened several times in the span of 6 months during my commute to our office on Market street.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by chewz »

rfwhyte wrote: post #613
kenneth wrote: post #151

I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.

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> The ONLY thing that's ever really going to fix most of the problems in the world today is MASSIVE global reduction in wealth / income inequality

That's just happening. One robbery at a time... All these robberies happening at once are called revolution...

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by browningstreet »

I'm not putting any blame on Bob here (I've always been a dawn guy, not a night owl), but the city I'm in (not CA anymore) has lots of its bad things happening at 2am (the time of his stabbing) too.

When I was working in SF (downtown, SoMa, FiDi) I had a schedule that got me to a gym at 5am, the office at 7am, and back on Bart before 4pm. I can't remember the last time I was in SF after dark. Walking the city at 5-7am is like wandering the aftermath of a war zone. It's sleepy, but the overnight destruction and misfortune was on display.

That said, all the talk of crime here feels slightly premature -- the linked story doesn't clarify whether he was the victim of a random attack or by someone known to him.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by darth_avocado »

asveikau wrote: post #588
cheeseblubber wrote: post #529

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

It's misleading to lump violent crime and property crime together. SF is skewed very heavily towards property crime. This stabbing incident is a rare event, and broken auto glass is common. They're not the same.

From personal experience, people don’t even report property and violent crime anymore in SF. The rate of property crime is way more than those statistics say.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by [deleted] »

asveikau wrote: post #588
cheeseblubber wrote: post #529

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

It's misleading to lump violent crime and property crime together. SF is skewed very heavily towards property crime. This stabbing incident is a rare event, and broken auto glass is common. They're not the same.

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by excerionsforte »

aEJ04Izw5HYm wrote: post #555

Can we take a minute to re-direct this conversation away from just the politics of SF? I want to draw attention to Bob Lee, a well-respected technologist and prototype hacker, always curious and sharing lots of interesting technical developments. He was a great role model for how Engineers should be respected in an executive capacity as he advanced his career from 'Software' to 'Product'. His efforts contributed to t…

I wish some of the comments from below were merged into this comment for better visibility of those comments. There are things in those comments about what he did in his lifetime that are great to hear about.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35454844

2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35454971

3. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35451821

4. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35449584

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