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“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”
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Democracy didn't get us Trump. The Electoral College got us Trump.
The electoral college is still democratic. You're confusing direct democracy with democracy in general. The US is a Republic, which is democratic with general safeguards to prevent mob rule. I can't stand Trump but this is and always will be such a weak argument. If you can control the Senate you can win the electoral college and both parties have done so in the past 20 years back and forth very consistently. Trump w…
> You're confusing direct democracy with democracy in general.
No, you're confusing semantics. A Wyoming voter's vote counts several times more than a California's vote for the same position. Land borders shouldn't change your vote, that's _anti_-democratic and in favor of an unequal distribution of voting rights. We should call a spade a spade, and here the spade of the electoral college is clearly _not_ democracy when we no longer have to send state delegates across the barren frontier.
You can toot the representative republic horn all you want, which is what the system is, but it is in error to call the existing system democratic or a democracy _until_ the electoral college is gone. It should be. It serves no purpose other than to suppress what the majority of the people want. Likewise for state-specific regulations for cross-union office, like for President.
Do what you want for your own state representation (e.g. senator, governor) but the President should be the one person actually elected by a majority without shenanigans, whereas none is today.
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The scale. A million here and there for him is nothing, but billions is real money, even for him.
Obviously not or he wouldn't have gone so far in the first place.
He clearly didn’t mean to go this far, but Twitter out lawyered him and locked him into an airtight contract. His hubris bit him in the ass this time.
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I only follow about 25 people on Twitter, Elon Musk is not one of them. Yet the first tweet in my feed when I just opened up the homepage is Elon Musk said "let the good times roll" 8 hours ago.
I keep mine on chronological sort so I only see people I follow.
Now they added the similar tweets section under tweeg replies.
Its always confusing for me when I am just scrolling through replies then see something totally irrelevant.
Though I gotta hand it to them, the tweets suggested are often related, and it will resort to funny tweets when it can't find something similar.
Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”
#625Twitter moves way faster than any council possibly could. By the time a council decides some content is bad the damage has been done and people have moved on.
Unbanning all the extreme right accounts will blow up twitter.
Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”
#626If they wanted to really add value, they could write their decisions like SCOTUS does, as the reasoning in the decisions would be available to all involved, and they would be taking ownership of their assessments, with Elon as a tiebreaker for them.
The discourse around those decisions itself would add value to the platform and the internet. The "public editor" role at newspapers is close, but it's still one person, and they're usually just sustaining critical narrative anyway, but run it like SCOTUS instead. I'd like to see the arguments and rationale of the people who prevail, and the ones who dissent, as it demonstreates the integrity and legitimacy necessary to wield this kind of power, imo.
The main tension in the culture comes down to really old dichotomies between material vs. essential, and the material has prevailed so much that language itself has been subordinated to exigent material ends. The balance I would strike on a board like that would be any decision would need to sit on a foundation of open principles and axioms, many of which could seem to be in conflict with each other, and then the given situation would indicate which principle prevails in a given decision.
That way, even if you get ruled against, or a policy comes out that sweeps you up in it, you have been given your just due.
Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”
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> Is Canada on the verge of civil war? So, the difference between the two countries is that this viewpoint in Canada is a fringe one, while in the United States, it enjoys popular support among mainstream politicians and media. Oh, they don't directly endorse violence, but they are very happy to call for someone to 'remove this turbulent priest'. That's the difference between fringe lunacy (present in every country,…
Also a reminder - a left-wing nut shot Scalise during a baseball game. Rand Paul was attacked at his home and had his ribs broken. There was an assassination plot against a conservative-leaning Supreme Court justice. The right does not own the monopoly on violent nutjobs among their ranks. Sadly, they exist everywhere, left, right, and center.
Yep. The extremes have gotten crazier. Hence the thought that civil war or at least a really nasty escalation could happen.
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Maybe shareholders was the wrong term, doesn’t he have a duty to like the banks and Saudis and other investors
Oh, I see. I have no idea. My intuition is that it's like a standard loan, as in he can do whatever he wants but if he doesn't pay it back then they'll come after his other assets he supposedly put up as collateral. That's just me guessing. I have no idea how that works at that scale of financing.
When you owe the bank 1 million dollars, you have a problem. When you owe the bank 1 billion dollars, the bank has a problem.
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I like HN and the moderators, but this isn't how HN mods imo. People aren't just politely reprimanded and falling into line... People get accounts banned every day here. Moderation on HN is imo heavier than it is on twitter. Topics and discussion are heavily controlled and removed if they become at all sensitive or aggressive. You can't call people names or make crass offtopic jokes (like people on twitter do constan…
> You can't call people names or make crass offtopic jokes (like people on twitter do constantly). I'm not sure how they could pull it off, but if Twitter wants to be a real town hall for the world then these are the things that DO need to be removed. But if twitter wants to be the place were anyone can scream into the void, then they can't do this. The weird thing is, I want both. My favorite part of twitter is both…
> I'm not sure how they could pull it off, but if Twitter wants to be a real town hall for the world then these are the things that DO need to be removed.
I don't think you can be a town hall for the world. There are too many differences between societies, communities, and factions across such a large number of people. Sufficient context is difficult to impossible to establish if you have to include both your neighbor and someone from Austria in your audience. Doing so in 280 characters is impossible. So every conversation devolves to the lowest coming denominator - whether that's nastiness or having to write a tons of disclaimers before saying something for fear of older tweets coming back to bite you.
The reason HN or smaller fora work is because they can maintain their own community with certain expectations and established context while aggressively banning anyone who doesn't fall in line. How do you do that on a site as large as Twitter with any sort of consistency, especially across language boundaries?
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I assume there's something wrong with the contracts, because it's obvious to anyone following the industry, and it's been widely and thoroughly covered for decades (see links at the bottom or search the press, university publications, or ProQuest). It's true for all these contracts, and especially those with black artists and athletes. Kanye made specific points that the contracts are unfair, with 'talent' not being…
> He has objectively been victimized He hasn't met the burden of proof for this claim.
The speed of your response indicates you haven't read the links.
You want him to publish his contract? Ooops, he tried that. It showed that Kanye's deal is "standard" for the industry, which doesn't mean it's in any way fair.[0] He's also explicitly said he's doing this for black artists in general, not just himself.
You want him to try to change his contracts privately? Oops, he tried that; his label has deep pockets and just settled privately rather than changing anything.
Many others have tried and they just get buried in lawsuits, sometimes blackmailed (their next releases won't get promoted),[1] and even if they get out, their past albums are still owned by others.
Burden of proof is for exceptional claims. In an industry where egregiously unfair contracts are the norm, the exceptional claim is that Kanye's contracts are fair.
[0]: https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/features/kanye-west-record-...
[1]: https://www.okayplayer.com/music/rappers-bad-contracts.html