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luxuryballs wrote: post #360
partiallypro wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Kanye's ban, he's just a mentally ill person. I don't think he meant "death con" he just didn't know that it's actually "def con." His remarks are still reprehensible. Twitter's whole moderation problem has been it i…

I really don’t think Kanye is mentally ill or anti-Semitic, people are just claiming both or either of those as a way of “poisoning the well” about what he’s actually saying, check out this recent interview with ex-CNN Cuomo: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kQwaOfBb-s8

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Post by fckgw »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #331
fckgw wrote: post #277

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Sounds like a great way to foster a community filled with racist, unwelcoming, and generally toxic but perfectly legal content. Just like every other "free speech" platform devolves into.

Can we stick to a grown-up discussion, please? You are not replying to my points in any meaningful way. It's shocking that HN commenters could be so toxic, indeed.

Not sure what there is to discuss? I wholly disagree with your idea. There's plenty of other social network sites that have a similar moderation policy and they are overrun by people who wish to turn it into a platform to spread hate.

Any content moderation needs to extend beyond "Legal? (Y/N)" unless your main goal is to drive any real community away.

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Post by Waterluvian »

concinds wrote: post #368
Waterluvian wrote: post #264

I got a 7 day ban for a tweet that included “political suicide pact” as an idiom. I then got permanently banned for including the line, “sending their children to die in Ukraine” in a tweet. The “appeal” button causes me to get a denied email within one minute. This tells me no humans are in the loop on any of this. I don’t think these tweets were controversial or require any diversity of viewpoints. They just requir…

Twitter ignored multiple reports of personal threats directed at me specifically (involving concentration camps and general death threats, etc.) "This tweet doesn't violate Twitter rules." People I didn't know, who I had zero negative interactions with before. That was way before Musk. You just can't have human moderation at that scale. They have to brainstorm how to prevent these tweets in the first place, rather th…

That’s awful. And I’ve also witnessed the same kind of abuse that goes ignored.

Has any large social media site ever solved this?

4chan does by having no rules: if you show up, expect the absolute worst of humanity.

Reddit does by having countless volunteer moderators who basically do 98% of the moderation.

Facebook suffers from the same problems as Twitter.

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Post by partiallypro »

luxuryballs wrote: post #360
partiallypro wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Kanye's ban, he's just a mentally ill person. I don't think he meant "death con" he just didn't know that it's actually "def con." His remarks are still reprehensible. Twitter's whole moderation problem has been it i…

I really don’t think Kanye is mentally ill or anti-Semitic, people are just claiming both or either of those as a way of “poisoning the well” about what he’s actually saying, check out this recent interview with ex-CNN Cuomo: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kQwaOfBb-s8

He's definitely mentally ill, he has admitted so himself.

He also seems to basically cites a lot of things that Black Israelites and Farrakhan say/believe, who are openly anti-Semitic.

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Post by greenthrow »

mikkergp wrote: post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

You are taking him at his word when he has demonstrated time and time again that he should not be taken at his word.

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Post by concinds »

zimpenfish wrote: post #335
concinds wrote: post #207

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You may not have noticed, but they've been posting that for years.

There has been a significant uptick today[1]. [1] https://twitter.com/ncri_io/status/1586007698910646272

Fair enough. I still think conservatives (and liberals, for different reasons) are vastly overestimating how much Musk will protect free speech. Slurs will obviously still be banned (likely automatically; I don't see why the platform relies on human moderation in those cases). These people are just getting a fast-track ticket to not-allowed-on-Twitter.

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Post by such12 »

hedora wrote: post #328
such12 wrote: post #263

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> (including the supreme court) This seems like paranoid thinking. The Supreme Court has shifted ideologically to the right, but I haven’t seen any evidence they are part of a conspiracy to end democracy.

Here's some evidence. They ruled to allow state legislatures to override voters by changing state law to allow that: https://news.yahoo.com/analysis-supreme-court-tilted-electio... and an upcoming case to watch, where they're expected to further undermine laws: https://www.npr.org/2022/06/30/1106866830/supreme-court-to-t...

> Here's some evidence.

These are opinion pieces.

> They ruled to allow state legislatures to override voters by changing state law to allow that

No they didn’t. Nothing in the pieces linked states this.

> and an upcoming case to watch, where they're expected to further undermine laws:

This isn’t a meaningful sentence.

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Post by floober »

robertlagrant wrote: post #342
jonny_eh wrote: post #323

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"he's just a mentally ill person" That has very large influence and is spreading and inspiring hate [1]. Mentally ill or not, he's causing real-world damage. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/banner-kanye-right-los-...

The premise of speech is damaging, unless it's slander / libel, is I think the main thing Elon Musk wants to change at Twitter.

What about incitement to violence?

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Post by merely-unlikely »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #325
intrasight wrote: post #289

Twitter is not a megaphone. So tired of news sites using that analogy. I can choose what I see on Twitter.

I only follow about 25 people on Twitter, Elon Musk is not one of them. Yet the first tweet in my feed when I just opened up the homepage is Elon Musk said "let the good times roll" 8 hours ago.

I keep mine on chronological sort so I only see people I follow.
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