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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by Deflect »

fxtentacle wrote: post #599
forest_dweller wrote: post #592

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If you even have a few thousand people regularly watching you (whcih is common these days). The bandwidth costs start to add up.

Not really. Good dedicated servers come with multiple TB free = 1000x 1 GB stream. And usually it's only pennies afterwards.

I've got experience for US hosting and they dont have great package prices like you're describing after the initial cap ime. 20 TB as some of the biggest caps then your bill is nearly doubled for 20 more. After that your bill would skyrocket to >$1000 in the increased networking fees and you dont even want to know how much unmetered 1+Gbps will get you. This will vary of course because short of being a hosting or tech company of size its not worth the cost, paperwork, biometrics, and time it takes.

So you go for a reseller which there are many stellar ones but they'll either utilize a program with the datacenter akin to an reseller affiliate program with them being the 3rd party support or do it all themselves. If they do the reseller affiliate program they cant really offer anything outside of theie markups on the existing offerings by the datacenter. If they do it all themselves then it becomes much more expensive for the upfront costs.

What you want is a VPS and a CDN which provides a better experience and what every streaming platform uses. Not that expensive either!

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Post by Google234 »

Quarrelsome wrote: post #320
apexalpha wrote: post #152

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Why is it shady, should Youtube host your video for free? Youtube is an insane free service, there's nothing that comes close to the video and stream quality. To be honest I'm surprised so many video's have been hosted without ads while the creators cash in outside of Google.

> Why is it shady, should Youtube host your video for free? That has been the service since release, so yes.

It’s still free ...

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by leipert »

helmholtz wrote: post #165
leipert wrote: post #80

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Been using a different mail provider for 5 years. Just the other month google deleted my gmail account (had it set up to delete after a year of no-login) It is quite easy to migrate: 1. get a new mail account 2. forward everything from your gmail account 3. sort everything GMail into a separate folder in your new account 4. slowly change email addresses in accounts and let people know your new address. I think after…

Might I ask what password manager you use? And what do you do when you need to access websites from a machine that isn't yours? Also, did you consider the single-point-of-failure argument? I would like to know your opinion on that.

Used lastpass back then, now Enpass with sync across devices (tablet, phone, PC). Regular backups of the Enpass file into a folder that is synced to my NAS.

Wanted to look into other password managers, preferably open source, but at the time Enpass had the best syncing options combined with a good enough user interface that’s suitable for less tech folks.

Edit: I mainly use all the things on my devices, and don’t try to use things from untrusted devices. The only use cases with untrusted are:

- copy shop -> Sending the file via share drop

- PC of a Family member -> manually typing password from phone.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by ArunRaja »

1. "Youtube partner program" can be terminated after 6 months of zero interaction with users, though creator shall reapply. 2. Youtube shall run ads on non YPP videos.

So idea seems to be, takeaway 'ideal creators' money from them to 'Youtube'.

Is it fair to disassociate creator from "YPP/ads share" for 6 month/more dis-engagement?

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Post by yarosv »

TheKarateKid wrote: post #619
kllrnohj wrote: post #606

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Linus of the Tech Tips variety has said that a major reason they kept paying for the forums, which are a pain to keep healthy & don't generate much revenue, is so that they could have a direct line of communication to their core fan base no matter what happens. Similarly there's a reason LTT launched Floatplane. Risk management is important regardless of how big your business is. Even if you're large enough for youtu…

Couldn’t they just use Twitter or some other platform like everyone else?

On twitter communication only happens here in now. Nobody (almost) cares about tweets older than 3 days, and twitter UI "helps" with that.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by boogies »

cableshaft wrote: post #4

I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. I somewhat understand Google's stance on this, as it's a service that should be allowed to make money even on people who don't want to make money. They don't really have such a way to opt out of pretty much any ot…

> It would be a massive undertaking to shift their backlog of videos onto another service, and they'd lose all their existing subscribers and have to build it up elsewhere.

Fortunately that’s not entirely true, IIUC — LBRY and BitChute can automatically mirror their channels. Anecdotal accounts say LBRY pays orders of magnitude more per view IIRC, and doesn’t decrease YouTube growth. minutephysics uses it and still has >5 million subscribers on YT. And failing those, it shouldn’t be too hard to youtube-dl a channel and upload it to a Peertube or GNU mediagoblin (here ’s hoping ytdl starts using git the way its creators intended and moves issue tracking to an antifragile mailing list).

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Post by leipert »

hypertele-Xii wrote: post #254
leipert wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been using a different mail provider for 5 years. Just the other month google deleted my gmail account (had it set up to delete after a year of no-login) It is quite easy to migrate: 1. get a new mail account 2. forward everything from your gmail account 3. sort everything GMail into a separate folder in your new account 4. slowly change email addresses in accounts and let people know your new address. I think after…

I went the extra mile and create a random, unique email address for every single service I sign up for, so I know precisely who sells my data to spammers if I ever get any. All the unique addresses redirect to a central one for ease of access.

Often do that as well, but then: What’s the point. Company X leaked my mail, so what? Not much that one can do about it. Now I often group services, e.g. car rentals with car@ and food delivery services with pizza@

It’s awesome for filtering and sorting emails though.

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Post by BEEdwards »

bestnameever wrote: post #577
Lambdanaut wrote: post #572

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> They always had to add ads at some point, hosting video, and the bandwidth and transcoding that goes with it, is incredibly expensive, not to mention the dev time going into creating such a massive platform. This isn't about covering expenses that they couldn't afford otherwise. This is about making enormously rich people even richer.

Most businesses don’t give away products or services away for free on a mass scale despite being able to afford to do so.

But they're not giving it away, they're harvesting massive amounts of information even off of videos without ads.

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Post by SXX »

forest_dweller wrote: post #615
fxtentacle wrote: post #599

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Not really. Good dedicated servers come with multiple TB free = 1000x 1 GB stream. And usually it's only pennies afterwards.

Where? Most place seem to get quite expensive once you add a Object Storage on top.

Hetzner $50+ servers have 1gbps uplink with unmetered BW.
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