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Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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post #405

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This looks like depression. See a shrink.

therapists/psychiatrists can't really "cure" depression in most cases; they can only blunt some of the worst symptoms with drugs or teach coping skills. this often plays out over the course of years. in the mean time, depressed people might want to make friendships that they can realistically maintain. this probably does not include friendships that depend on mutual participation in activities for which the person ha…

That’s not true, not entirely. There is a variety of approaches here, but one typical approach is for psychiatrist to blunt the symptoms with drugs, just enough so that you can get yourself together and commit to seeing a psychotherapist.

Read the first two chapters from the “Feeling good” book by David Burns to get an idea of what a competent (!) therapist can do.

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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Situational Proximity - Beside the obvious compatibilities...If you are continually around someone in your youth and hang out, you tend to make long lasting friends. If you are partially and sporadically around someone because of logistics (spouse, work, location) you will not make long lasting bonds at the level you would compared to the first example. The other parts of the discussion are not significant to those points IMO.

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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It's quite arrogant for one to think that just because someone is late, they are late out of a lack of respect for one's time. The early person upset their time was wasted is being equally if not more selfish by expecting everyone to move to their whims.

How is expecting someone to honor a mutual meeting time that they've agreed to in advance a selfish desire that everyone moves to their whims!

Because it assumes that their desire for an inviolable mutual meeting time is the only factor in the world that matters. It places their own plans on a pedestal above all other factors that might influence the plans of others.

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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As a gay man who is almost 30, I think making friends is relatively easy for gay people thanks to dating apps. Perhaps, you cannot same gender friends in Tinder (if I'm wrong, please correct me), but a lot of gay people are using dating apps not only to find relationships but also to find friends. I also think social isolation around gay people makes friendship among gay people special. I don't know much about Wester…

> you cannot same gender friends in Tinder (if I'm wrong, please correct me)

You're right about Tinder, but Bumble has the "bff" thing.

I went on it for a while as a straight dude, and everyone I matched with was a gay guy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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post #192

As a gay man who is almost 30, I think making friends is relatively easy for gay people thanks to dating apps. Perhaps, you cannot same gender friends in Tinder (if I'm wrong, please correct me), but a lot of gay people are using dating apps not only to find relationships but also to find friends. I also think social isolation around gay people makes friendship among gay people special. I don't know much about Wester…

Also gay, I think it is much more to do with our "delayed adolescence" and childless-ness. Or at least in the US that's what I see. The older I get, the more blessed I feel to be gay. I can move to any medium to large sized city tomorrow and probably find tons of guys in my age range that are looking for friends and shared-activity partners. I have many child-free gay friends in their late 30's-50's and their social…

What are those of us gays who don't have the ability to move to a medium to large city tomorrow to do? (I am not trying to be contrarian, but am genuinely curious.)

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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I feel like everyone I meet nowadays is too self-centered and competitive to be friends with. Does anyone else feel this way? I hope I’m not just projecting.

Yes. People lose their luster over time. What has changed is the self and ones perspective. What does it say about yourself when you notice peoples faults instead of what you admire in them? The faults were there all along.

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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I have found Randi Zuckerberg's quip that of [family, sleep, fitness, friends and work] you can focus on three at a time. For me, it's family, work and fitness. If I have extra time, I use it for sleep. Friends are critically important. They just aren't as important as family, work, fitness and sleep. If I had more free time, I'd invest more in sleep than finding relationships.

Added to that list should be hobbies because otherwise I can only pick two from that list.

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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I'm 33. I had a lot of friends when I was in college. I think I hung out with like four different groups of people, and I'd often introduce people in different groups to each other. After I graduated, everything slowly fell apart. As the years went by, we all slowly but surely drifted away. I'm at the point where I hang out with very few people in real life anymore. I have one very close friend from college who I sti…

> The way I see it, I have another 30-40 years left in me before my body gives out, and I'm going to spend all of them without having the kind of friend I had from 19 to 31. I don't really know how I'm going to deal with that.

Most people try to find this sort of friend in a relationship.

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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post #508

As someone who has been an expat in several locations and also divorced, I have found that it's not really due to age but down to where the people around you find themselves in their life and where you find yourself in life. When young people go to college a significant portion of them are in a situation where they would need to seek and develop new friendships. The same happens if you move to a location which has a…

Also an expat here who has lived in multiple locations. I discovered (accidentally) that meetup.com is a great way to make friends in a new place that have a common interest. Try to find a group (or start one) that is about something you're interested in and that meets weekly. Go every week! You'll make friends in no time. I've done this in a number of cities now.

Starting a group is the best strategy to know people. The organizer has some bonus standing. Attending to many meetups of other groups is the second best strategy. I mix them. My focus is on business relationships but I knew many people for sure.

Re: Why is it hard to make friends over 30? (2012)

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post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"it's just hard to meet people in the first place" If it's hard, it's usually a psychological difficulty rather than a lack of opportunity. Unless you live somewhere exceptionally remote, you're usually surrounded by people and opportunities for meeting them are quite frequent. You could strike up conversations most anywhere: from streets to bus stops to parks to bars to dance and social clubs to special interest gro…

I live in Seattle and everyone else on my daily commute is immersed in their smartphone, tablet, or laptop.

Isn't it the same for any large city?
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