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Re: Magic Leap One

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> uptight social culture of finance looooool ... You mean like the men having competitions to see who can hit the urinal from furthest away? or barefoot wrestling on the trading floor? Those are both reputable stories I've had relayed to me about people I've worked with. More like a frat than an uptight environment ;)

Wow, maybe I was just lucky? I worked on two different (energy) trading floors. One was a fairly large venture (30 or so trading desks + mid/back office + dev/ops/DC teams + management). The other was one of the huge banks. Both were in Stamford CT. I spent well over 5 years there and never once did I see those sorts of shenanigans. There was some stuff: the guy that liked to throw a football across the floor, occasi…

> Both were in Stamford CT.

Been there done that. Was the big bank one, the one with the keys in it's logo ? If so, you were using the Desktop OS build I designed :)

> I'm so glad I never worked with the handset smashing, drug abusing, loudly swearing, king of the world, type-A assholes that I hear about.

I think these days, thats largely confined to the Hedge-Fund traders. And those guys are EXACTLY the sort of people would love AR/VR based trading UIs - anything to make more money is always welcome in their world.

Re: Magic Leap One

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I don't need a virtual 4K monitor. I can turn my head to see more, just like I do in real life. How close do you have to be to see the pixels in a 4K monitor, and at that point, can you see the entire monitor without looking around? I want the portability, and then the resolution just has to be good enough. If we could get a virtual 1080p display that would be amazing and good enough. But to your point, the VR displa…

Just got a $399 50" Samsung TV on BlackFriday. Base on the review, it supports 4:4:4 which is a must as PC monitor. Hook up the one yrs old cheap HP laptop to it via HDMI port. Looks great! 4k video streaming from Youtube works very good. 4 x 1080 Tiled windows - perfect for productivities. I don't do gaming. The latency is less of an issue for me.

Now imagine that in your bag, and can be instantly set up in front of you anywhere in VR.

Re: Magic Leap One

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That sounds only slightly larger than HoloLens tbh. For a company with this much funding and hype I expected more than just “a slightly better hololens”.

I think it hinges on whether the lightfield projection is as revolutionary as they say. All the other specs pale in comparison.

At that FoV? I doubt it matters practically from a consumer standpoint

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Don't open an IKEA catalog. You'll be disappointed.

Ikea has beautiful perfect renders. This Magic Leap render is pretty horrendous.

IKEA's products as listed in the catalogue can be ordered (and, if required, build). Magic Leap cannot be build and has yet to deliver.

Even if Magic Leap will ship, their secrecy is unwarranted because they don't have any credit as a company. Compare to Apple's secrecy: they do have credit.

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This is the reason why I hate conspiracy theorist. You can't argue with them because they think to know everything despite the evidence of the contrary.

> despite the evidence of the contrary You're on a bit of a roll across this thread [1] without anything more than the Rolling Stone article. People are expressing healthy skepticism towards a company that has been publicly caught in a material lie, has raised a lot of VC with little to show for it, and made an announcement with lots of CGI and a vague "2018" release date. Given whom this announcement is targeting, I…

Ironically, he/she is causing people to post more information supporting the viewpoint he opposes.

Re: Magic Leap One

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3 years... Also, having more money and no biz model is a bigger issue than you think.

That's why Amazon's stock crashed and lost 90% of its value in 2001.

Amazon ha(d), arguably, a trivial business model - at least for retail.

Things have changed with Prime and supply chain innovations, but there isn't a much simpler model than what basically amounts to consignment.

Re: Magic Leap One

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I share the concern that there's still nothing too publically accessible, but the device itself isn't completely under wraps. The journalist in the Rolling Stone article[0] viewed a few demos built between the ML team, including one with Sigur Ros that's got a very small clip on youtube[1]. I suspect building a demo of this kind of tech that's remotely as impressive viewed on a website or youtube video is challenging…

> https://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/features/lightwear-intro... This is very impressive if what it says is true. They've basically reinvented the concept of a digital computer display by projecting a sort of artificial light field into the eye. The amount of capital they've raised makes sense now, this sounds like a ridiculously big undertaking. What remains to be seen is whether all this work will be worth it as o…

It's just talking about a VRD, which is used by HoloLens as well. I imagine "light field" is just jargon to impress investors (it's not an impressive concept in itself - projecting a 'light field' on a 2D plane (retina) amounts to simply projecting light).

Re: Magic Leap One

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I share the concern that there's still nothing too publically accessible, but the device itself isn't completely under wraps. The journalist in the Rolling Stone article[0] viewed a few demos built between the ML team, including one with Sigur Ros that's got a very small clip on youtube[1]. I suspect building a demo of this kind of tech that's remotely as impressive viewed on a website or youtube video is challenging…

Building a demo for this would be challenging, but come on. They have been at this for what... five years now, and had $2 billion to work with? Besides, hype can be very dangerous. Look at what happened with No Man's Sky. They rode the hype train to the Moon and came crashing down hard because the product utterly failed to meet expectations. That's why it's important to temper hype with regularly administered doses o…

> Look at what happened with No Man's Sky.

I feel like this is also an answer to the top comment in this thread - gamers are a target market for stuff like this because they are more likely to take risks based on hype without waiting for a technology to prove itself.

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There are two reasons why the field is focused on gaming and not productivity: fidelity and familiarity. It's hard to build high-enough fidelity into the hardware at a reasonable price point. And even if you did make VR goggles that were great for giant spreadsheets at $1000, it would be a weird enough idea that it would have to be massively better than $1000 worth of monitors to get people interested. In gaming, on…

> It's hard to build high-enough fidelity into the hardware at a reasonable price point. And even if you did make VR goggles that were great for giant spreadsheets at $1000, it would be a weird enough idea that it would have to be massively better than $1000 worth of monitors to get people interested. I doubt that. If you make a VR/AR/?R version of a Bloomberg terminal or Factset then finance firms will literally rol…

A large part of a Bloomberg terminal value is the status. It's not like the UX is what's blocking evolution of the terminal.
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