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I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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inigyou wrote: post #425
davidgerard wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Only if you can reasonably separate LLM from non LLM code, which is in no way a solved problem. It's trivial to detect when someone's coding with a chatbot - they tell you, repeatedly. Nobody who doesn't code with a chatbot worries that it's hard to tell.

Apparently some people have compared it to some other unlikable groups of people (I know this because a vibecoder complained about the comparison someone else made) If someone has to ask whether their software is mostly AI-written, then it is. If someone has to ask exactly how racist you have to be before you can be called a nazi, they're probably a nazi. If someone has to ask how attracted to underage girls they can…

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Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by 83642736392 »

inigyou wrote: post #458
jasonvorhe wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I read this quote I also had to think of this tante person on Mastodon urging their thousands of followers to vote for a certain thing. If one actor like this can possibly impact a small community this way, I'm on the cautious to sceptical side about that community project's future.

So it's bad that someone can say how they think people should vote? Aren't you also saying how you think people should have voted?

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Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by 83642736392 »

vaylian wrote: post #154
veganmosfet wrote: post #87

Same. I moved to codeberg because of the non-commercial and "freedom" aspects. I enjoy vibe-coding tools for different applications, e.g. for prompt injection research. Now I will probably move back to Github. I accept this decision but I am quite disappointed by the ideology and black & white view. LLMs are a fascinating technology created by us humans, and they have the potential to make our life better. We shall s…

> LLMs are a fascinating technology created by us humans, and they have the potential to make our life better. Just like forever chemicals. LLMs cause a lot of problems and they should not be disregarded. > We shall stay curious. Curiousity is fine. But critical thinking is still advised

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Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by 83642736392 »

inigyou wrote: post #452
duxup wrote: post #437

It’s interesting how many revolutions and even small efforts surrounding the concept of freedom very quickly go from “freedom” to “no actually I mean freedom for things I like”. It’s a constant pattern. Principles are hard I guess.

I know. So many platforms don't provide freedom for CSAM.

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Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by woodpanel »

inigyou wrote: post #480
woodpanel wrote: post #207

> the one part I moved there for, namely the “freedom” part Being from Germany I wondered from day-one how the project's "freedom"-promise ( "We celebrate free culture, openness" ) would eventually work out, because lets face it, Germany is not a free-spech crazed country, even less so are its tech-people and especially not the culture in Berlin. So the idea of a Berlin-based e.V. full of German sysadmins voting on s…

As long as you don't insult someone or support Palestine it shouldn't be a problem. German speech law is strict, but predictable. Although there was originally no law against supporting Palestine - it was a reinterpretation of the anti-Nazi laws - I believe they've now made it a law.

The text of the law is fine. But then there is the application of it. And the jurisprudence, ie. the stubbornness with which courts are defending it.

But anyways, we're not talking about free speech laws, we're talking about an association, a club (ie. "e.V.") where things get decided according to majority vote. That's where "German Speech law" doesn't apply, but culture does.

"e.V."s are basically German offline versions of reddit. And if you believe it when a subreddit run by German SysAdmins promises you to be "free and open" – well, i got a bridge to sell to you.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by Cider9986 »

inigyou wrote: post #448
Cider9986 wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Free speech in the US is about protecting citizens freedom from government harm for their speech. That's all. We can agree government shouldn't punish their citizens for their speech?

Yeah instead corporations, which are more powerful than the government, harm you for your speech.

You don't have to use corporations unless they are mandated by government (govt fault) or a monopoly (govt fault).

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by pbronez »

nottorp wrote: post #45
pbronez wrote: post #14

This prompted me to revisit my own decision to avoid Codeberg by re-reading their Terms of Use[1]. A few things stand out: - They explicitly require all hosted software to have a FLOSS license - Private repos are only allowed in support of Public FLOSS repos, with a scary ambiguous note about "really small and personal stuff" - Projects with heavy use of coding AI are explicitly forbidden This means I can't use Codeb…

Interesting. Every time Codeberg was mentioned on here it was perfectly clear they only host public open source projects. Why would you even assume they allow private repos?

Because most forges sell private repos as their primary business model.

I encounter Codeberg as a forge first, then have to dig in to discover that it's a highly opinionated service with a different business model than most similar entities.

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