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Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by nstj »

bombcar wrote: post #424
nstj wrote: post #229

As an FYI you can recover from force pushes to GitHub using the GitHub UI[0] or their API[1]. And if you force push to one of your own machines you can use the reflog[2]. [0]: https://stackoverflow.com/a/78872853 [1]: https://stackoverflow.com/a/48110879 [2]: https://stackoverflow.com/a/24236065

And as a double FYI this means a force push does not permanently delete sensitive data! Beware. Rotate that API key, even if it's a pain in the arse.

This is a lesser understood corollary of my comment :). Thanks for calling it out ;)

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by thescriptkiddie »

julianozen wrote: post #335

We are going to drop blackblaze over this We discovered this change recently because my dad was looking for a file that Dropbox accidentally overwrote which at first we said “no problem. This is why we pay for backblaze” We had learned that this policy had changed a few months ago, and we were never notified. File was unrecoverable If anyone at backblaze is reading this, I pay for your product so I can install you on…

my parents also lost data that was supposed to be backed up on backblaze because they didn't use that computer for a month and when they turned it back on the hard drive was dead. apparently backblaze silently deletes backups more than 30 days old even if they are the newest backup and then happily keeps billing you for not storing your data.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by gck1 »

kevincox wrote: post #585
andybak wrote: post #362

I had a back and forth with them about .git folders a couple of years back and their defence was something like "we are a consumer product - not a professional developer product. Pay for our business offering" But if that's truly their stance, then they are being deceptive about their non-business offering at the point of sale. EDIT - see my other comment where I found the actual email

That's ridiculous. I use Git for tons of personal projects.

Forget personal, some of my git repos aren't even "developer", or have a single line of code in them.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by jkl5xx »

jibal wrote: post #565
zymhan wrote: post #490

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This cannot be a serious proposal. You should probably talk to people who don't use technology because they love it, but because they need it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

It’s kind of wild to read through these comments and realize hn is still riffing on the same ideas. Is it e2ee? Does it run on Linux? Who would pay for something you can slap together in a weekend with a few bash scripts? Really highlights this community’s values, skills, and blind spots. Also a bit of a bummer that the privacy and open source situations today are even worse in many ways.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by dpark »

gck1 wrote: post #608

Backblaze is such a weird case. On one hand, it became the most trusted personal backup provider on reddit and HN, on another - their software is absolute junk, and as some comments in this thread are highlighting - even their restore can't be trusted. I've never needed to restore anything, so can't say anything about this, but once, one of my devices deleted a file in Syncthing, and I went into Backblaze to see if t…

> How did Backblaze gain this trust in the first place? Is it because nobody is offering "unlimited" storage at the same price point?

Yes, the unlimited storage is one factor. Their detailed write ups about hard drive reliability and transparency on how they build their racks (I think they essentially opened sourced the design) established a lot of credibility as well. Plus in my experience they just worked.

I paid for Backblaze for years but finally cancelled when I junked my last desktop and never got around to installing it on my laptop. I did use their restore functionality a couple of times and it was slow and kind of clunky but it worked.

I’m sad to hear they’ve started dropping stuff from the backup like this. I’ve been contemplating signing back up but most of the stuff I care about is in iCloud or OneDrive so if they aren’t backing that up, it’s pretty useless to me.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by peteforde »

malfist wrote: post #560
peteforde wrote: post #429

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm happy to pay an annual fee for a one-size fits all approach that I don't have to think about. I read the post and I'm just saying that his blockers are not blockers for me. I would ask you: what is the better alternative? That's not a rhetorical question; they don't have my credit card details for another two weeks.

This whole post is saying that you _do_ have to think about it.

Right. If you read what I actually said, I am not captured by Backblaze.

I said that I want a solution that I don't have to think about. I'm happy to pay for not thinking about it. If that's not Blackblaze, do you have any good suggestions?

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by dpark »

wrs wrote: post #582
ineedasername wrote: post #555

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not what I meant: The other cloud storage services connected to the computer, eg OneDrive. Those files, when they are just stubs. I'm saying that Backblaze could simply not backup stubs, if the person isn't syncing the actual file to their drive. If they are, backblaze should back it up.

The point of the stubs is so you don’t have to know which cloud files are actually on your device at any given moment, because they will be fetched automatically. Marking files as “always local” is a niche feature, and in any case has nothing to do with whether you want those files backed up. To have this thing you’re not supposed to need to worry about affect whether your files got backed up is exactly the problem h…

“We only back up stuff from your computer” has always been their stance, and clearly it’s a way to reduce their costs. I can understand not wanting to engage in the “please backup these 10TB I have in Dropbox” requests.

I think backing up the materialized files is appropriate. That’s what they (used to) promise.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by andriy_koval »

Semaphor wrote: post #171
trvz wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t do quarterly restore tests?

How do you do that? My naive idea: Download 100 TB every 3 month to a 2nd device, create a list of files restored, validate checksums with the original machine, make a list of files differing and missing, check which ones are supposed to be missing? That sounds like a full time job.

Now days its: hi claude, write script in language I hate the less which will ...

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by KingMob »

petercooper wrote: post #373
julianozen wrote: post #335

We are going to drop blackblaze over this We discovered this change recently because my dad was looking for a file that Dropbox accidentally overwrote which at first we said “no problem. This is why we pay for backblaze” We had learned that this policy had changed a few months ago, and we were never notified. File was unrecoverable If anyone at backblaze is reading this, I pay for your product so I can install you on…

I'm going to join the exodus, though for a different reason. Switched to Orbstack and ever since Backblaze refuses to back up saying "disk full" as Orbstack uses a 8TB sparse disk image. You can exclude it, but if they won't (very easily) fix a known issue by measuring file sizes properly I don't feel confident about the product.

I've also been bitten by the Backblaze/Orbstack combo, and was one of the early communicators with the OrbStack team about it.

While I agree Backblaze is overdue to exclude the sparse image, in fairness to them, no other online backup solution (other than Time Machine itself) handled it correctly either, at the time I was investigating this last year.

(I'm not even sure Apple itself handles it correctly in all cases. I had to migrate to a new macbook recently, and Migration Assistant hung while transferring my files. I deleted the sparse image, tried again, and then it worked. Possibly a coincidence, I admit, but Migration Assistant reliably disappoints me every few years.)

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by sunnybeetroot »

thebrain wrote: post #559
sunnybeetroot wrote: post #527

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even crazier is one drive has a limit on the total length of a file path, how is this even a thing that exists.

Everything needs limits otherwise someone will figure out how to or accidentally break it.

I stand corrected you’re right
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