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US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Post by rendang »

01100011 wrote: post #390
HEmanZ wrote: post #288

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“ Most of the attraction of living there historically was its extremely business-friendly environment.” How old are you? What propaganda told you this? In my generation (young millennial/genz) the attraction of living in Seattle, which pulled me and almost a dozen professional friends at this point has been: - high quality urban living in a temperate environment. Including access to great parks, waterfront, bikeabili…

Oregon ticks most of those boxes except the difference is that Oregon has very few jobs. People flock to WA because of jobs created by long-standing business friendly policies. That doesn't explain everything, obviously, but I think you need to take it into consideration. For decades I've heard this in some form from people: "Oregon is amazing, but I had to leave when I couldn't get a job." Meanwhile the Sea-Tac regi…

Weather is worse in the Portland area, can be a good few degrees warmer than Seattle in the summer

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Post by greedo »

sandworm101 wrote: post #236
greedo wrote: post #217

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There is no mechanism for recall of Congressional officers.

Plenty of state-level reps can be recalled today. That noone is even trying sends the message that the population is generally OK with waiting until the next election ... an election that will be run/managed/counted by those representatives.

I specifically said Congressional representatives.

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Post by recursive »

kypro wrote: post #449
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #431

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Healthcare was carrying the economy. Any commentary on why that’s failing?

> Private education and health services I'm probably missing something here, but those seem quite unrelated categories, and I'm not sure why anyone would pay for private education these days when we all have access to free AI private tutors?

The free chatbots I have access to make factually incorrect statements very often. Of the falsifiable statements I've seen come out of them in areas where I know enough, it seems like at least 1 in 10 is objectively wrong in some way. They'll walk it back if pressed. ("you're absolutely right")

I know human teachers aren't perfect, but they seem much better than these things.

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Post by tremon »

nradov wrote: post #590
arethuza wrote: post #500

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"Illness is neither an indulgence for which people have to pay, nor an offence for which they should be penalised, but a misfortune the cost of which should be shared by the community.” Aneurin Bevan

That's true to an extent, but the majority of US healthcare spending goes to treating chronic conditions caused more by lifestyle choices than misfortune. There's a fundamental issue in public health policy about individual responsibility and whether to charge people more (or potentially even deny care) over factors at least partially under their control. For example, the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) allows health…

That topic should be a non-starter as long as US government policy is to keep shitting in the food bowl. There's way too many communities living under the toxic spill or waste of some unregulated industrial process -- and the country seems perfectly ok with that kind of "lifestyle". I really don't see why we should villify individual lifestyle choices when the entire country is happy with intentionally harmful policy choices.

So, if health insurers want to start charging premiums I suggest they send their bills to Superfund sites first, then to regular toxic cities like Flint, Camden, Hinkley or Picher, then to producers of known-carcinogenic substances (like Chrome-6 or Roundup), and then to advertisers of known-harmful products like alcohol or tobacco. Only when they run out of those targets can we have a discussion on individual lifestyle choices.

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Post by avrionov »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #527
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I come from healthcare staffing. Contracts were heavily affected by cuts in federal programs that are critical to some rural regions, and uncertainty caused by inconsistent messaging about the future of such programs. Some areas are very dependent facilities that can only survive with public funding. For example in nursing categories, CNOs (Chief Nursing Officers) would be requesting more staff, but CFOs would block…

Thank you. Is there a good reason this is showing up now versus in the 2025 data?

Not everyone was laid off immediately in the government. Some people were given 6 months notices, etc. Then the local authorities started to discuss the gap in their budgets. In my town they stopped hiring first and then they decided to cut some positions starting from 2026.

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Post by hungryhobbit »

hyperpape wrote: post #415
throw0101d wrote: post #249

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> I recently went back for a funeral, and I had to spend a moment reminding myself that it would be fine for me. Your passport does not matter, the colour of your skin does: "US citizens jailed in LA Ice raids speak out: ‘They came ready to attack’": * https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/05/us-citizens-... "A U.S. citizen says ICE forced open the door to his Minnesota home and removed him in his underwear af…

Don't put words in my mouth, don't say silly things. I'm well aware the color your skin matters a lot, but your passport also matters, especially at the border. You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport and that's still better than brown skin and a third-world pass…

>You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport and that's still better than brown skin and a third-world passport.

Tell me you're not an American without telling me you're not an American.

I hate to say it, but to many (racist) Americans, brown skin < anything else ... and ICE has a disproportionate number of those people, because they deliberately hire them.

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Post by hyperpape »

hyperpape wrote: post #415
throw0101d wrote: post #249

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> I recently went back for a funeral, and I had to spend a moment reminding myself that it would be fine for me. Your passport does not matter, the colour of your skin does: "US citizens jailed in LA Ice raids speak out: ‘They came ready to attack’": * https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/05/us-citizens-... "A U.S. citizen says ICE forced open the door to his Minnesota home and removed him in his underwear af…

Don't put words in my mouth, don't say silly things. I'm well aware the color your skin matters a lot, but your passport also matters, especially at the border. You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport and that's still better than brown skin and a third-world pass…

hell of a typo in that last sentence, and I can't edit.

I meant to say "doesn't mean you're not less likely to be targeted".

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Post by tehjoker »

summerdown2 wrote: post #406
tehjoker wrote: post #286

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The democrats are complicit in genocide. Trump is attacking allies too, but they’re both criminal. The main difference is “worthy and unworthy” victims.

> Trump is attacking allies too, but they’re both criminal. In other news, a mouse and an elephant are both mammals. If only there was some obvious way to tell the difference between them.

I don't really know how to respond politely to downplaying genocide. What I can say is that it is becoming accepted that Kamala Harris lost in part because she refused to change genocide policy. If you want to win, you should start taking it seriously.

My swing-state vote was stupendously easy to get. (a) don't commit a genocide (b) give voters something big and material like free healthcare (c) don't cover up COVID and Long COVID

They didn't even try.

https://www.axios.com/2026/02/22/dnc-2024-autopsy-harris-gaz...

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Post by badc0ffee »

saalweachter wrote: post #609
badc0ffee wrote: post #602

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Museums and public art galleries are notably worse in Canada, honestly. But, I think there some unique things worth seeing for an American: The old parts of Montreal/Quebec city, and the Alberta Rockies, especially the corridor between Banff and Jasper.

Sure, yeah, but you say "Alberta Rockies" and I think "Ah, yes, because the US is notably lacking good scenic parks in the Rocky Mountains."

I'm saying this after having seen the Rockies in both countries.
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