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US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Post by keldonjohnson »

BeetleB wrote: post #571
0xy wrote: post #554

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A Senior Software Engineer in Stockholm can expect to make less money than a Graduate Software Engineer in the United States, and will pay more taxes. It's simple, as a technologist, you live in Europe if retirement isn't important for you. Because you'll have almost nothing to show for it after 30 years in tech in Europe.

Except lots of vacation, travel, etc.

In big tech the benefits are the same, except you save more in 10 years in WA than people in London save in 30.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Post by metalliqaz »

neogodless wrote: post #160
metalliqaz wrote: post #36

"Unexpectedly" to nobody with an actual job.

Even less unexpectedly to anyone without an actual job.

hah, point well taken. In hindsight, my use of "actual job" to mean "job that contributes to the economy rather than simply speculating on it or skimming off the top", wasn't very clear.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Post by nradov »

mschuster91 wrote: post #476
yonaguska wrote: post #455

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My personal take is that it's just hit a breaking point where people have finally decided that it's not worth the money. Im not the only person I know with an uninsured wife, and only coverage for my kids. If it weren't for my kids, I wouldn't have enrolled in insurance either. The math just doesn't work out for someone relatively young and with no major health issues. And with the government cutting back spending, w…

> The math just doesn't work out for someone relatively young and with no major health issues. The thing is, bad and expensive health issues can literally come upon you over night. You can get hit by a vehicle or get beaten up with no perpetrator to be held accountable, you can develop an aneurysm, get food poisoning, get pregnant unexpectedly (with all the risk that comes with, including healthcare not being accessi…

Sure, those things can happen. A lot of younger people will decide to just accept the risk, and then if they get hit by a bad and expensive health issue then they'll go to the ER anyway. Due to EMTALA, most hospitals have to treat them regardless of ability to pay. This is one of the factors causing the US healthcare financing system to collapse.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Post by rconti »

icecube123 wrote: post #337
gaoshan wrote: post #109

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Can't blame you. Coming from the US I have been making a point to vacation in Canada, fwiw. Short of voting, protesting and getting into arguments with MAGA people I don't know what else I can effectively do.

I surprised more US folks dont visit Canada, its amazing, much safer, and cheaper for them because of the exchange difference. Im guessing they see prices in CAD ($), and think its more expensive, but not realizing that $1 of theirs buys $1.35 CAD.

I don't visit Canada for the same reason I don't do a whole lot of touristy stuff here in the US: The travel costs aren't really _that_ much cheaper vs going somewhere more exotic like South America, Europe, Asia, etc, and it feels a bit too much like "home".

Living on the west coast, Vancouver's the easiest to get to -- I love Vancouver (and Victoria), and I've been both places several times, and I've gone to Whistler a handful of times as well, but, again, it's a lot like where I grew up in Seattle.

I really do want to visit Montreal sometime, but I also want to visit Chicago and Memphis and a lot of other "domestic" locations that I somehow never find the time for.

Also, when you grow up in a country you have a lot of local knowledge from culture, friends, television, education, so we just know a lot more about domestic places we haven't (yet) visited. Plus, a substantial number of people don't have passports. We used to be able to visit Canada easily without one, now we cannot.

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Post by CalRobert »

xhkkffbf wrote: post #307
angiolillo wrote: post #253

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> the friends are mostly here to get a feel for the place and see if they want to emigrate As a US citizen who has daydreamed about moving to a Dutch city like Ultrecht I'm curious what they found, and how it feels to be an immigrant in the Netherlands.

It's not so easy to do. You can't just daydream about it. A friend of mine spent 18 months just with the paperwork. He's now making half of what he might make at home, but he's happy. The people are definitely friendly and welcoming, but the legal system makes it hard. And the businesses know this so they underpay because they can.

What visa takes 18 months?!?

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Post by throw310822 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #439
throw310822 wrote: post #434

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Pretty useless without knowing at least what % of the total they are per category and what type of jobs they are.

The distinction between + and - is useful even without either of those.

Not really. Is it -2% or -0.01%?

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Post by s_dev »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #428
s_dev wrote: post #330

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ICE agents shooting US citizens, the mass shootings, the school shootings, the crime rate and fentanyl 'bend' posture that makes loads of poor people look like zombies, the aggressive police with guns who sometimes shoot people, burglaries that involve shootings. A lot of the problems in America seems to stem from guns and drugs but also policy. Even something as simple as crossing the road is unnecessarily complicat…

This sounds like someone who is on social media too much. The counterpart is an American in Paris convinced the banlieu are war zones. The actual problems: we’ve made it impossible and insulting to get a tourist visa. And we’ve made pissing on our tourism partners our foreign policy.

>The counterpart is an American in Paris convinced the banlieu are war zones.

This isn't a counterpart because nobody is trying to explain a significant drop in tourism numbers to Paris.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Post by blurbleblurble »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #518
blurbleblurble wrote: post #494

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Your head's in the sand. Where I live we have bounty hunters kidnapping people into unmarked vans. For six months or more now. Would visitors likely be safe? Sure, but not necessarily and I can't blame people for being cautious and there's so much unpredictability around it, even for those of us who are familiar.

> I can't blame people for being cautious and there's so much unpredictability around it I can. Again, this is like refusing to visit CDMX because you heard about gang violence or avoiding Sicily because there is crime. Those singular events aren’t false. But they don’t make up the majority of the context. Someone refusing to travel because of these low-probability events (note: because of fear of them, not out of pr…

Why should anyone who isn't a citizen feel safe travelling to the US right now when this is how the federal administration brazenly treats people who are citizens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSbRBCyG72g

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Post by nradov »

arethuza wrote: post #500
h2zizzle wrote: post #481

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Seems like something that shouldn't be left up to a consumer market.

"Illness is neither an indulgence for which people have to pay, nor an offence for which they should be penalised, but a misfortune the cost of which should be shared by the community.” Aneurin Bevan

That's true to an extent, but the majority of US healthcare spending goes to treating chronic conditions caused more by lifestyle choices than misfortune. There's a fundamental issue in public health policy about individual responsibility and whether to charge people more (or potentially even deny care) over factors at least partially under their control. For example, the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) allows health plans to charge tobacco users higher premiums. Is that fair? Should we also charge higher premiums to alcohol users or those with sedentary lifestyles? There are no clear right or wrong answers here.
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