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Don't worry, you'll pay for the service and get ads. It's the inevitable end-state of these kinds of services.
Amazon prime video showed us that. First no ads. Then ad free if you pay extra. Then “ad free” except half the shows have a “this show requires ads” bs and still have ads. Scummy flea ridden advertisers at their core.
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> most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are That's actually changed a while ago.
Weirdly, I think Perplexity is getting a lot of mainstream name recognition because of podcasts. All the big slop pods like Rogan, Theo Von, etc are sponsored by Perplexity and the hosts constantly name check it by asking to “look stuff up on Perplexity”. Honestly pretty smart marketing all things considered.
https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/blog/perplexity-x-lewis-hamilt...
Here it is in action
Not sure why this is a headline; ChatGPT served me ads a few weeks ago. I was asking it what type of Teflon tape to use for a project, and it "helpfully" gave me sponsored links to purchase the Teflon tape. (I never asked for links, I strictly asked it which to use)
It's not totally obvious to me that you can get the economics of this to work. A Google search costs ~.04 cents to serve, whereas a frontier reasoning LLM request costs about 2 cents. The revenue from a Google search is also around 2 cents. So the margins are dangerously thin on an LLM. Now there's lots of variables that can be tweaked on this. So it's possible to get it to work. But there's a lot less room for error…
Go on something like openrouter with gpt 5.1 and use the chat then check the billing and you’ll see an average joe query is like 0.00102 or something.
You’re quoting figures from articles for initial ChatGPT release in 2022
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At least those are obvious. Them sneaking ads in that don't look like ads are what I'm more concerned about.
That would be illegal. I understand that there are a lot of strong opinions and open questions about OpenAI behavior – the amount of vigilantism is quite staggering – but if what they do is found to be clearly illegal by courts around the world, they will have to pay very hefty fines. Disguising ads is one such move. That's just not a winning business.
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Except OpenAI’s value is overinflated by an economic bubble. They don’t have the manpower or resources to effectively implement an ad network on the scale they’d need to become profitable. Why are you insisting we keep the conversation positive?
They have an app millions of people use that they can directly inject ads into. What makes you think this couldn't make money?
Because advertisers will use Gemini instead.
Advertisers already have established relationships and business processes with Google account managers.
Why bother starting from scratch with a new account manager at OpenAI? Will OpenAI even last?
At least Google has been around a while. Seems like a safer investment from point of view of advertiser.
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Spinning up an all-new ad network is pretty tough. I would think OpenAI would need to beat Meta/Google on basics like CPM in order for the network effects to make it desirable for ad vendors over Meta/Google. Ad budgets are fixed and zero-sum and vendors (in my head, I don't know) would prefer to spend their money on the best network giving the best results. I don't know if ads in LLM chats can get there.
If Apple can build an ad system within the app store, I don't see why OpenAI can't do that for ChatGPT.
Because Apple iPhone users have no alternative.
But Google Gemini is right there for Gmail, Google Docs, and Google Workspace users.
What a lunatic loop this is. AI takes human jobs, then AI injects ads hoping humans with jobs can make it money. Amazing equation slow-clap
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> 99% of users having no idea what "export chat history" means? Yet Google Chrome managed to make Safari/Edge irrelevant.
Not having used anything except for Firefox, I don't have any experience with migrating to different browsers. However, my understanding is that Chrome shows a little pop-up that lets you import from previous browsers rather than relying on the user to do a data export. Correct me if I'm wrong about this. I suspect that Claude couldn't make an "import from ChatGPT" button because OpenAI would make it difficult, so th…
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Like this?: https://huggingface.co/TheDrummer/Rivermind-12B-v1
Aside: this guy regularly posts on the Discord server for an open-source post-training framework I maintain, demanding repayment for bugs in nightly builds and generally abusing the maintainers.