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FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by FpUser »

throwaway6734 wrote: post #548
FpUser wrote: post #512

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>"US hegemon is required for global stability" This is laughable. The US initiated way too many wars and other offensive / disruptive actions. If you call this stability then I have a bridge to sell. The only stability it provides is it's own. Well maybe some to the allies.

The US Navy ensures that global shipping routes stay open and safe, the US economy provides the globe with advanced technological research and products, and the US's natural resources allow for it to export tons of commodities including food and energy. During pax americana, we've seen massive increases in quality of life around the world. Do you think the world is going to be more stable as the US retreats and other…

I think the world will be more stable when there are few major players around with not a single one having complete control / dominance. This will insure competition and cooperation between our "masters" and will keep them on their toes.

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

RyanGoosling wrote: post #583
geysersam wrote: post #566

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Blatantly false. Completely unrealistic. Additional regulation towards privacy perhaps - affecting all similar (American, Chinese, European etc.) platforms. But not an outright ban. Facebook threatening to close their site in Europe because of regulations is not the same as EU banning them.

EU countries are banning Google already. Never say never

No, that's not the case.

Judiciaries in multiple EU member states have judged Google to be breaching EU regulations (in regards to Google Analytics). That is not a ban; Google is welcome to do business in the EU if they observe EU laws and regulations.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by moralestapia »

collegeburner wrote: post #524
cudgy wrote: post #206

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Ok. Put a stop to TikTok and allow US companies to vacuum up our data. China then hacks those companies servers or installs agents within the companies and gets the data anyway. Security threat not avoided. None of these companies should be allowed to store and abuse the sensitive information people divulge when using many of these services.

this isn't just about data collection. china should not be allowed to become a tech power. producing a popular social media app with advanced machine learning counts as that. china should be allowed to produce our widgets and mind its place, we can't allow a communist country and a potential global competitor to America to advance past that.

>china should not be allowed to become a tech power

Whoops, a bit too late for that.

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Post by PhantomBKB »

danenania wrote: post #584
PhantomBKB wrote: post #552

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Well, idk about you, but I hear of at least one school shooting in the US every week. Statistically, the numbers might not be much, but it sure caused 95% of schools to enforce active shooter drills, no? > A majority of the US population supports stronger gun control. Unfortunately, in our political system, that's not sufficient to make it happen. Isn't US a democracy? If majority of the population supports stronger…

That's because the media is sensationalist and uses fear mongering to drive up engagement and revenue. Also, it's a big country. When you have a population of hundreds of millions, a lot of things that are extremely unlikely to ever impact an individual citizen will nonetheless happen on a regular basis somewhere in the country. "Isn't US a democracy? If majority of the population supports stronger gun control, it sh…

Fair enough.

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Post by 6510 »

thematrixturtle wrote: post #489
tablespoon wrote: post #474

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> The problem should be that the data is collected and provided to the government whenever they want - not that it's not the Chinese government. We had this discussion after the Snowden leaks and nothing changed whatsoever. Back then it was the US government and the US gov had the chance to change the rules so this could not happen. Now they're up in arms because other governments do the exact same thing. It's really…

That's... not a great analogy. I trust my wife a lot more than I trust Mark Zuckerberg (or Xi Jinping).

I trust Xi more than Zuckerberg.

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Post by quantumwannabe »

dgb23 wrote: post #608
throwaway6734 wrote: post #465

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposable_household_and_per_c... not sure how accurate wikipedia is here, but I've seen this claim elsewhere

So there is a difference between disposable and discretionary income: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposable_and_discretionary_i... Apparently what I meant above is discretionary income, which would include all fundamental bills/payments such as healthcare etc. Disposable income does not include those, it only includes income plus direct payments from the government. What would interest me is discretionary income,…

The numbers on the GP's page include the value of government benefits. If you exclude the European social benefits, their median disposable income is even lower.

>The following table represents data from OECD's "median disposable income per person" metric, which includes all forms of income as well as taxes and transfers in kind from governments for benefits such as healthcare and education and is equivalised by dividing by the square root of household size. This metric, in addition to using a median rather than a mean, uses "data calculated according to the new OECD terms of reference"; compared to previous terms of reference, these "include a more detailed breakdown of current transfers received and paid by households as well as a revised definition of household income, including the value of goods produced for own consumption as an element of self-employed income." As OECD displays median disposable incomes in each country's respective currency, the values were converted here using the World Bank's PPP conversion factors, accounting for each country's cost of living in the year that the disposable median income was recorded. Unless noted otherwise, all data refers to 2019. Data are in United States dollars at current prices and current purchasing power parity for private consumption for the reference year.

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Post by ngcc_hk »

I think if USA can access chinese data it is a fair game. But one way data traffic, one way influence … it will kill USA in the long term. If information is important any one way street even if one put in sone caution protection is still one way.

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Post by Aaronstotle »

6510 wrote: post #617
thematrixturtle wrote: post #489

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That's... not a great analogy. I trust my wife a lot more than I trust Mark Zuckerberg (or Xi Jinping).

I trust Xi more than Zuckerberg.

Zuckerberg doesn't disappear people or put them in camps
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