Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

Post by kunagi7 » Thu, Oct 07, 2021, 1:47 PM UTC

pronik wrote: post #372

Adrig wrote: post #34

Meh, the feature is easily deactivable, the settings are clear and extensive. As far as ads go, it's one of the best implementations. Firefox still has no alternative in the privacy / user-centric space (don't mention Brave, I'm gonna get mad). Mozilla has done a lot for the web, I can give them some slack for exploring different revenue models. Still, I'm going to keep on eye for this kind of practices in the future…

Just imagine the meltdown if Google or Microsoft built that in. Somehow, Mozilla always get the slack and a couple of months down the road they are the saviour of the privacy world yet again.

Post by soundnote » Thu, Oct 07, 2021, 1:49 PM UTC

ravenstine wrote: post #275

Adrig wrote: post #34

Meh, the feature is easily deactivable, the settings are clear and extensive. As far as ads go, it's one of the best implementations. Firefox still has no alternative in the privacy / user-centric space (don't mention Brave, I'm gonna get mad). Mozilla has done a lot for the web, I can give them some slack for exploring different revenue models. Still, I'm going to keep on eye for this kind of practices in the future…

How many things are we going to need to deactivate in 5 years from now? First Pocket, then this; what next? Thanks a lot for mismanaging your budget like seemingly every other non-profit, Mozilla.

Post by soundnote » Thu, Oct 07, 2021, 1:50 PM UTC

morganvachon wrote: post #393

kome wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Firefox still has no alternative in the privacy / user-centric space (don't mention Brave, I'm gonna get mad). Vivaldi perhaps https://vivaldi.com/ ? It is still a chrome derivative, but it feel less shady and less spyware than Brave. And it's pretty good and configurable. Firefox remain my first and main browser tho. I never ever used "proper" chrome, not even one day.

Vivaldi is not open source so that's an immediate "no" from me. I'm fine with using closed source tools from time to time, but a web browser is just too important and intertwined in my life to trust a closed source offering. In a perfect world we'd have nothing but fully open source software funded by support contracts and commercial interest in offering superior software, but the world isn't perfect and so we have t…

Post by INTPenis » Thu, Oct 07, 2021, 1:51 PM UTC

chobytes wrote: post #572

INTPenis wrote: post #545

So just disable it. I'm sick and tired of people smearing Firefox because they're trying to make a living. It's still the best open source browser out there, it's still free, as in freedom and as in beer. Any fork of Firefox is mainly a change in default settings or branding. None of them would exist without the huge contributions Mozilla Foundation receive. People who criticize Firefox and then use one of its many f…

They're choosing a very unethical, and (given their own ads) hypocritical funding model. The corporate speak euphemisms for this model signal the further underlying rot. To me your position reads analogous to "Im sick of people smearing organic produce corp for trying to make a living selling agent orange. If you dont like it dont buy it!"

Post by pseudalopex » Thu, Oct 07, 2021, 1:55 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #351

Tepix wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really hate this as well. If there is a "not now" button, why is there no "no and do not remind me, ever" button, too?

It's a dark pattern I call 'the consent ratchet'. As soon as you ever get irritated enough and misclick that button is gone for ever and good luck disabling the 'feature' (term used lightly) seven layers of menus down, assuming it can be done at all.