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I don't understand what point you are trying to make.
In which part of there is no point in trying to argue "fairness" in who-gets-what if "fairness" is not the point of the Welfare State am I losing you?
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In which part of there is no point in trying to argue "fairness" in who-gets-what if "fairness" is not the point of the Welfare State am I losing you?
Your original claim was that parents don't really get "Elterngeld", because they pay for it themselves in taxes.
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In which part of there is no point in trying to argue "fairness" in who-gets-what if "fairness" is not the point of the Welfare State am I losing you?
Your original claim was that parents don't really get "Elterngeld", because they pay for it themselves in taxes.
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Your original claim was that parents don't really get "Elterngeld", because they pay for it themselves in taxes.
No. My comment was just an ironic way of saying that there is nothing "given" by and from the Government. Whatever is "given" is actually taken from someone else and redistributed. I thought that was clear already.
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> The problem in contemporary culture is that we are not even allowed to have this conversation So what type of conversation are you having right now? We have word in swedish for using that type of "arguing", it is "offerkofta". I dont think it is a good word for it in english, but starting a discussion in an open forum saying something and then stating you are not "ALLOWED" to discuss what you are discussing is just…
This is a mostly anonymous forum which is slightly more open to controversial ideas than the average media outlet. Any person openly questioning the effectiveness of treating men and women as exact equals is usually treated as some sort of ultra conservative or fringe figure in the media. People in general have a hard time understanding the idea that there are different scales of value. The old Einstein quote about a…
If you really need someone to pander to this perspective, American society is full of people loudly discussing it. It is obviously so.
So either you are angry that your local discourse doesn't treat this topic kindly, or you were just making a rhetorical jab that wasn't meant to be taken literally.
In either case it doesn't seem very fair to do, imo.
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My comment was far from "violent" and knee jerk and had nothing to do with the groups in question. It was a parody of the woke virtue signalling that is trying to shame others for every possible perceived slight no matter the rarity of the edge case.
At least 5 percent of the population is not a super rare edge case, and even if it was people who are edge cases still deserve recognition. Nobody was getting shamed either, it was just a consideration. If we had it your way we'd all be perpetually censored from bringing anything up that didn't immediately pertain to 99% of people. When someone says a wheelchair ramp should be built somewhere is your response that th…
You mean when someone says -or signs- that we should build a wheelchair ramp?
Some people are deaf and can't speak. Let's not exclude them.
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That was not at all as conclusive as I was expecting, for several reasons: * it's study not studies * it refers strictly to educational performance * it's likely detecting something else entirely: "The researchers found that same-sex parents are often wealthier, older and more educated than the typical different-sex couple. Same-sex couples often have to use expensive fertility treatments to have a child, meaning the…
Regarding the third point the conclusion still supports what I said, that there's no big gap. A basic google query will get a ton of results. Here are a few. Overview of 75 studies: https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equali... https://thinkprogress.org/same-sex-parenting-study-age-25-67... https://qz.com/1320434/new-research-debunks-old-science-abou...
If you're making the effort of linking to studies that support a specific statement, please link to the actual studies and not opinion articles about them.
In any case, I would not expect kids with same sex parents to do worse in school or have noticeable psychological issues, which is what these studies were looking for - these are pretty heavy issues after all.
But I would expect that they are slightly worse for subtler reasons: maybe they're a bit more prone to infections in the first years because they weren't breast-fed, maybe they're distressed in school because they're being subtly bullied (mentioned in one article, btw) and so on. Remember that the original claim was "they're no worse", not that they're not much worse. I agree that they're probably not much worse, but a male-female couple has thousands and thousands of years of social support and nature on its side. Of course it's going to be in some ways better.