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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by bgentry »

jwr wrote: post #161

I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

Vastly inferior dev tools, amateur tab management (no multi selecting tabs to rearrange or close), and a lack of extensions that are super valuable in web dev.

I keep trying to switch but every time it is clear that Safari is an inferior product (aside from efficiency, where it beats the heck out of Chrome).

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by ChikkaChiChi »

bastih wrote: post #525
nine_k wrote: post #518

On top of uBlock Origin / uMatrix, some of the other Firefox's trump cards to me are: * Tree Style Tab: makes tabs much more manageable, no parallel in Chrome. If you open dozens of tabs, after using this, you can only pity the traditional tab management [1]. * Containers and container tabs: it's a bit like having separate Chrome profiles for separate contexts, but you can also have them as tabs in the same window. *…

Container tabs have made my life much easier, as I'm managing a number of Amazon accounts, and being able to do that side-by-side is a life-saver.

You can do the same thing with Profiles in Chromium-based browsers, without having to add an extension.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by ChikkaChiChi »

bgentry wrote: post #603

I actually just gave this another try. First thing I did was see if WebAuthn/U2F support finally works well with Google services, which it now does! Second thing I did was try to open a private window using the universal macOS shortcut of Cmd+Shift+N. Nothing happened, because Firefox decided to use Cmd+Shift+P unlike all other browsers. No problem, this is a macOS app, I’ll just change the keyboard shortcut in syste…

Why do you want to switch from Chrome? There are other alternatives that might fit the bill.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by MiroF »

codedokode wrote: post #547
kumarharsh wrote: post #527

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know what's horrifying about the idea of "just fork Chrome"? Google can still hurt you by blocking your browser's access to their prime properties (YouTube, Gmail, Maps, etc). Just look at YouTube denying Chromium-based Edge the new redesigned experience for absolutely zero reason.

This is already happening. Web version of Skype refuses to work in Firefox, but if you change user-agent to Edge, it works.

that seems like a slam dunk antitrust case to me, no?

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by aloer »

I tried Firefox coming from chrome. Two things were dealbreakers for me

1) I’m a heavy window/tab user. 300+ tabs across 10+ windows is normal. I have not been able to recreate the same tab bar overflow behavior as in chrome, default ff will keep tabs at fixed width and scroll horizontally, making it impossible to see how many tabs there are in the window. Changing css helps but there are still enough problems with small width tabs not showing favicons, always showing (and overlapping) close tab button etc.

2) performance when switching videos e.g. on yt to full screen and back is terrible. Latest MacBook, external uwqhd screen, took upwards of 3 seconds every single time from pressing f to having the video show. Might not sound like a lot but it adds up. If everything else is fast this will just feel extra slow

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by pps »

jwr wrote: post #161

I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

No extensions, no sync between devices if you don't want to (or can't) use iOS, and overall worse experience for me than anything else I can use on Mac. But I'm using Opera, not Chrome. I think that Vivaldi is currently the best browser, but unfortunately they don't have mobile version yet.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by jabedude »

betaby wrote: post #600
mattlondon wrote: post #578

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've not found it to be an issue on Linux - seems to be about as performant as Chrome for me. The only wrinkle was when I tried to watch Netflix the first time I had to click a button to let me watch DRM'd Netflix streams.

HW accelerated video do work in Chrome/Chromium on Linux, while does not in Firefox, thus visibly loading the CPU and CPU fan on laptop. There is a visible tearing while quickly scrolling in Firefox, while no such problem with Chrome.

I'll have to try to reproduce this. I've never noticed it. Is it only with Netflix or when viewing any video?

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by bgentry »

Bonooru wrote: post #609
bgentry wrote: post #603

I actually just gave this another try. First thing I did was see if WebAuthn/U2F support finally works well with Google services, which it now does! Second thing I did was try to open a private window using the universal macOS shortcut of Cmd+Shift+N. Nothing happened, because Firefox decided to use Cmd+Shift+P unlike all other browsers. No problem, this is a macOS app, I’ll just change the keyboard shortcut in syste…

Cmd+Shift+N reopens the last closed window

Funny, that (also non-standard) keyboard shortcut is not shown in the menu anywhere and thus can't easily be remapped using the standard macOS keyboard preferences. I don't know if my Cmd+Shift+N private window remapping is failing due to the conflict, or if it's Firefox just not knowing about the remapping. But either way, it appears I can't easily remap Firefox's reopen last closed window to Cmd+Shift+T like other macOS browsers use.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by ChikkaChiChi »

bshacklett wrote: post #431
ethanpil wrote: post #102

I wish MIcrosoft would have worked off Firefox for the new Edge instead of Chrome. Just doesn't make sense why they would feed into a direct competitor. Bagging Edge off Firefox would have made it a real option for me as well as creating an opportunity now with all the ad blocking stuff going down...

On the plus side, we now have another large player working on Chromium, which may help prevent Google from forcing design decisions which benefit them alone.

This is going to become massively important. As Brave gains market share and Microsoft Edge becomes the defacto browser on Windows machines, Google Chrome could easily become the new IE6 if Blink strays too far down the path on upstream compatibility.
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