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Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by wiether »

mrinterweb wrote: post #513
_the_inflator wrote: post #346

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Exactly. Noise cancelling is a treasure. And what I really like about them is the ease of use. The moment I start talking to someone, automagically the NC is paused as well as any audio you were listening to. It sounds so easy but is really running smoothly. Over time Apple really perfected the workings. This blend is what makes them so valuable for me. I don’t have to manually do anything, simply speak and interact…

> And people now don’t feel neglected when you keep the Pods in your ear. I disagree with this. Pods in ears are essentially a "do not disturb" sign for most people. Being around people who regularly have the "do not disturb" sign feels neglecting. People who might initiate conversation don't know if they will even be heard if they try to talk, so why bother. I would rather be alone than in a room of people who are a…

Keep in mind that some AirPods are now certified hearing aids.

So before calling someone rude for talking to you with their AirPods on, make sure they don't need them on to hear you in the first place.

I myself always put at least one down when talking to someone, but I've learned to make the distinction between someone that is actually involved in the discussion, and someone that's still listening to what's coming from their connected device.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by wvenable »

exmadscientist wrote: post #598
wvenable wrote: post #571

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The key word there is appear . How do you know? You're making a lot of assumptions about people and why do things and whether or not it's healthy. You see dozens and dozens people with earphones on at exactly the time when most people don't want to be engaging. Some women put on headphones, often playing nothing, to avoid harassment. But the reasons are endless. You're assuming all this is "really really unhealthy" b…

The article is making the case that this is not healthy for society. It is the kind of thing that's fine if 5/100 do it, seriously worrying if 50/100 do, and basically fatal to civilized society if 99/100 people do. And when I go to the park and have a run, of the 100 people I might see there and on the way, we're closer to 50/100 than 5 or 99. So I think we have a problem.

If you read the article you'll notice that it's all opinion. The main quote about research is "There is disappointingly little peer-reviewed research on the effects earphones have on our daily lives and interactions." Even the linked "studies" are all correlation and mixed in with COVID.

The flaw in the whole argument is that somehow people are having less "meaningful" conversations because they headphones on. I'm sorry but you're not going to have a meaningful conversation (or any at all) with the 100 people who are also actively running at the park whether or not they had headphones on. I still don't see it as a problem if 100% of the people running had headphones on; they are there to run! It's like saying there's a problem because 50 out of 100 people at the park having running shoes on. If you've pre-decided that running shoes are a problem then that's a big concern otherwise it's just nothing.

For me, if I didn't have headphones on I wouldn't be going for a walk/run at all. That one thing has drastically changed how I approach exercise in general and I would do less without them. That said, I do occasionally enjoy a nice walk/run without any headphones but as the exception rather than the rule.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by wiether »

KolmogorovComp wrote: post #566

I’m reasonably skilled talking to strangers (can last about 3-4 hours in planes/trains/buses if the other party is up to it, after that I usually dry out of conversation), and do that frequently. However after several years of heavy traveling and hundreds of people talked to, you realize how similar everyone is. It is always the same issues, wife/husband, the kids, the parents… And it all starts to become a bit super…

  > And it all starts to become a bit superficial.
I'll never confide in a stranger, so if they want to talk, I'll try to bore them out with superficial stuff.

Signed: an introvert.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by KolmogorovComp »

wiseowise wrote: post #516
chistev wrote: post #231

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> I’m a long distance runner and often run 15-20+ miles without music or headphones. It’s nice https://youtube.com/shorts/aqWDyakwRg8?si=LZddNysBymNXLgZI

Jesus H. Christ, what a terrible day to have ears and eyes. Who even consumes this “content”?

Thank you, don’t worry you are not alone.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by saghm »

poncho_romero wrote: post #424
saghm wrote: post #333

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I think your attitude that going out in public is tacitly opting into interactions with strangers is a much more gross way to operate. The assumption that it's easy to just politely decline a conversation (and that not doing so in the form of a conversation itself) seems like an extremely narrow-minded point of view based on your own subjective experience. You're conflating social anxiety with the desire to "assert o…

What is the public if not the space where we interact with others?

The place between my house and all of the other places I might need to go? Is your argument that people should just not go to the doctor or get driver's licenses unless they're willing to interact with every stranger who wants to talk to them lest they be "rude"? I don't understand how you can in good faith claim that needing to do something obligatory outside of their house or apartment is actively opting into social interaction with literally everyone else in public.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by saghm »

poncho_romero wrote: post #426
jnovek wrote: post #281

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This has nothing to do with expectation of privacy. Private setting or public setting, it’s rude to bother people who are busy.

Some of you are unwell.

If you legitimately think that anyone who isn't extroverted in the same way as you is "unwell", I feel like you could use a lot of therapy yourself.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by KolmogorovComp »

wiether wrote: post #603
KolmogorovComp wrote: post #566

I’m reasonably skilled talking to strangers (can last about 3-4 hours in planes/trains/buses if the other party is up to it, after that I usually dry out of conversation), and do that frequently. However after several years of heavy traveling and hundreds of people talked to, you realize how similar everyone is. It is always the same issues, wife/husband, the kids, the parents… And it all starts to become a bit super…

> And it all starts to become a bit superficial. I'll never confide in a stranger, so if they want to talk, I'll try to bore them out with superficial stuff. Signed: an introvert.

So you’re wasting both your time and theirs, for no reasons. Instead, try politely signaling you’re not interested.

That being said, fortunately it’s easy to see people who like to talk.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by vkou »

KolmogorovComp wrote: post #600
andrepd wrote: post #561

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Eh I don't think so. Commutes are as clean and peaceful as they can be in the Netherlands or Switzerland and people are no less buried in their phones with noise-cancelling earbuds on.

Why is this downvoted? This is correct.

People like blaming everything that is wrong in their life on lack of law enforcement against the undesirables.

It's a tale as old as time.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by WalterBright »

mock-possum wrote: post #482
WalterBright wrote: post #474

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Unwelcome attention is unwelcome attention. The only charitable exceptions might be children and adults with developmental disabilities, who allowably don’t know any better.

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