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You absolutely need salt for a good burger, and just about any meat. Almost anything, really. Salt is not optional. Beef tastes less like beef without salt.
Beef tastes less like salted beef without salt. Saying anything else is literally wrong.
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> There's reason to believe our bodies may be more adapted to eating natural or traditional foods, having eaten them for hundreds of thousands of years rather than one or two generations. This is an argument that no white people should be eating pineapples, mangos, bananas, kiwifruit, etc. Hell, probably not even apples.
They will be fine, white people have, as everybody, African ancestors.
White people's African ancestors are over 50,000 years ago.
Somehow I liked the goal of Beyond meat, but could never get past the fact that it is too "processed". My rule of thumb regarding food is that the less the processing, the better. I think I was the ideal demographic - meat eater, who doesnt want to kill animals. Id rather have vegetarian alternatives rather than beyond meat. I think this is an example of an idea which looks great in the hype phase, but doesnt transla…
Likewise, not all processing is bad. Cooking food is a form of processing and just makes the nutrients much more easy to digest.
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Cool I live 40 miles downwind from this: https://www.greeleytribune.com/2013/10/31/greeley-based-ag-g... When there's an up-slope winter breeze I can smell it.
fertilizer smells. it also pollutes water ways. I'm not trying to be negative. I'm trying to point out that vegans are selective in their complaints.
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47 percent of adults in the US suffer from hypertension: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12196499/
which is much more easily explained by a garbage diet, no preventative medicine so to speak of, obesity, work/family/financial stress. there is a lot of space between 2100 mg of sodium for a 3 piece chicken w/ fries, and ~150 mg to put a little life into a patty.
I always wondered who their demographic was. The core early adopters, the ethical vegans, who actually like the taste of plants are never going to make a lab made ultra processed salt bomb their daily driver (never mind issues surrounding industrial agriculture). Health-conscious folks would take one look at the ingredient list and bail because of the heavy processing and industrial fillers. You've got bodybuilders a…
I think the part that’s accurate is that it’s hard to get past the highly processed hurdle for the kind of people that think critically about food.
But vegans aren’t the target market.
That's too bad. I don't expect fake-meats to be healthy, or cheap, but I like that they can be made without killing animals and without raising them in inhumane conditions. I had really hoped that people would say, "Well, if it tastes close enough, then how about I go for the cruelty-free version." And it is close-enough -- it's at least as good as a fast-food hamburger. Perhaps the cognitive dissonance is just too m…
Maybe it's just me, but beyond has never tasted close to the original. Impossible does. The fact that it doesn't taste close to the original and that it commands a price premium is why I ultimately gave up on it. Where I might use beyond, I can usually get a healthier option using ground turkey instead with a much more agreeable flavor and price. But really, I've just focused on making more meatless dishes in general…
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fertilizer smells. it also pollutes water ways. I'm not trying to be negative. I'm trying to point out that vegans are selective in their complaints.
You're strawmaning here. You can take any cause and point the selectiveness of the "people that care of that cause" by putting them in a bag and choosing the bag arguments to argument with.
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> For me I can easily skip an entire day of meals. I was like that earlier in life. It didn't last forever.
Why can't you fast? People of all ages do it for Ramadan.
> For me I can easily skip an entire day of meals.
You mentioned fasting during Ramadan. I had to look it up, it apparently allows a predawn meal and another meal after sunset, which can include meat and a dessert. Hardly skipping an entire day of meals! (and also rather less rigorous than the fasting rituals of some other faiths as well, although perhaps Islamic different sects have different takes on this)