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It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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It's just enshittification. Going to continue to get worse as time goes on. Even the hardware will go at some point I'm betting.

It's just entropy. It takes a special kind of person to be able to fight it in a big org. Jobs, Musk et. al. are assholes but they do manage to push their vision through. Probably because they are assholes.

It seems like apple is missing a design dictator

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Tahoe and Liquid Glass™ solidified for me the idea that Apple completely dropped the ball when it comes to design. Clearly they needed an a-hole in charge, Jobs would've crucified a few people. It's painful to see the decay, update after update, into a more confusing, cluttered, and tacky experience.

I don’t think it’s about being an a hole, but someone who deeply cares about the product is needed.

The experience right now is bad. It’s frustrating and there is no overarching vision or clear focus on the user.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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> If a PM tells you to shove a UI style More than likely designers are making up work to justify their jobs. Not good for your career if you admit the desktop interface was perfected in ~1995.

Uber, Airbnb, Robinhood all took off because they created easy to use beautiful apps (compared to their predecessors). The anti-design bias in this forum is genuinely unhinged. I see some saying the entire destruction of the natural world stems from design lol.

There’s a huge difference between anti-design bias and calling out Liquid Glass for the garbage human interface design that it is. If anything, it demonstrates a substantial *pro-design* bias because it shows that people actually care about design more than any “party line” here.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Yup. He is, by all accounts, a great supply-chain guy. eg. As far as I can tell, there were no significant breaks in Apple's supplies during COVID. But he clearly falls afoul of Steve Jobs'warning about leaders with no taste.

Tim Cook needs to drop some acid. He has no creativity what so ever.

You'd think a supply chain guy would be able to get ahold of some psychedelics too...

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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> Did you mean to reply to me? I think so. > The person I replied to said, "that interface designers or even the average computer user understands more than in 1992 is highly implausible on its face" Yes, I agree with this person. >How is it highly implausible on its face that the average computer user in 2026 understands less than the average computer user in 1992? I don't think it is. Particularly with the average…

> Particularly with the average user, the bar of understanding is lower now. Can you explain how this is true given that everyone using a computer today has had a lifetime of computer use whereas in 1992 many people were encountering computers for the first time?

> Can you explain how this is true given that everyone using a computer today has had a lifetime of computer use whereas in 1992 many people were encountering computers for the first time?

The userbase has been watered down with a larger proportion of individuals who are not highly technical.

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