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Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#601

The issue I continue to have with many AI coding tools is they want me to use their own editor ("native", aka VSCode fork, or in the browser like this). I have zero intention of moving away from IDEA and nothing I've seen so far is good enough to make me want to switch. I really with there was more of "bringing AI into your existing tools/workflows" instead of "here is a new tool with AI baked in".

Open source fixes this problem. This is basically Llama's moat.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#602

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Just use aider - it’s CLI and open source. You can open terminal in IDE and you just use /add file for context then /drop to clean context. Better than Copilot and just less worse UX than Cursor (which has benefit of knowing which page you have open). There’s also Claude engineer but not tested it yet. Forgot to mention killer feature - droping links to docs automatically fetches them in aider which helps with ground…

Look, I'm just not interested in something that gives me code on the CLI. This is no better or worse than using ChatGPT / Canvas or any other external tool. My project has well over half a million lines of code. I'm using an IDE (in my case Qt Creator) for a reason. I'd love to get help from an LLM but CLI or external browser windows just aren't the way. The overhead of copy/paste and lack of context is a deal breake…

As i understand things you...

- want to use your particular ide which does not have the llm plugin.

- don't want to use any of several ide's that support several llm's using a picker.

- don't want to use copy/paste to a web browser or other tool

- don't want to use 2 ide's at the same time if 1 of them is not your favorite

I would settle for the 3rd or 4th option, both work very well for me.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#603

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The problem is that tacking on to an existing product, while the ideal approach, limits just how creative you can get. I believe this is one of the reasons Cursor had to fork VSCode. Simply being an extension limited the features they could build.

I completely get this and I don’t have a good answer to the issue. I almost wish I liked VSCode since almost all AI editors are forks of that (not sure what the extension compatibility story is), but prefer IDEA.

> but prefer IDEA.

IDEA has "AI Assistant"[^0]. Is it not usable for you (I might have missed your comment mentioning it)?

[^0]: https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/ai-assistant.html

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#604

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Programmers have been against unions/licenses in software development because we saw it as slowing down our ability to job hop, potentially massively lowering wages, and making a large barrier to entry (which hurts a lot of us who started as kids/teens). Now there's a chance that this unregulated wild west with a low barrier to entry that's benefited us for so long will come back to bite us in the ass. Kind of spooky…

I would be in favor of some kind of state approved exam/certification to ensure programmers have at least some basic knowledge of computer security and engineering ethics. > making a large barrier to entry (which hurts a lot of us who started as kids/teens) I doubt it. In my experience autodidacts are the best programmers I know.

The problem is they would most certainly require a CS degree to apply (if it's left to the bureaucrats), which would be the barrier.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#605

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Just use aider - it’s CLI and open source. You can open terminal in IDE and you just use /add file for context then /drop to clean context. Better than Copilot and just less worse UX than Cursor (which has benefit of knowing which page you have open). There’s also Claude engineer but not tested it yet. Forgot to mention killer feature - droping links to docs automatically fetches them in aider which helps with ground…

Look, I'm just not interested in something that gives me code on the CLI. This is no better or worse than using ChatGPT / Canvas or any other external tool. My project has well over half a million lines of code. I'm using an IDE (in my case Qt Creator) for a reason. I'd love to get help from an LLM but CLI or external browser windows just aren't the way. The overhead of copy/paste and lack of context is a deal breake…

What I'm trying right now is two IDEs -- PyCharm for navigating around and static analysis stuff, Cursor for "how do I do this" or "please do this for me." Cursor (VSCode?) lets you choose Jetbrains keyboard shortcuts during setup and is relatively resource light so it's not too bad.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#606

Small ot, but it's quite interesting that the highest decisive impact generative AI is having right now is on tech workers and software developers in particular. I'm more and more convinced that we're on the edge of a major shake up in the industry with all these tools. Not getting replaced, but at this rate of improvements I can't unsee major changes. A recent junior I have in my team built his first app entirely wi…

I envision lots of solo coders now able to compete with bigger companies, creating more niche software that meets peoples need better than generic solutions. Truly exciting time to be in software.

I agree, and want to add: AI will make it possible to inexpensively produce small tailored applications that only support locally required functionality. The advantage to this is very small code bases that are easier to understand. In other words, it makes it possible to avoid huge mega apps that any particular user might use a small percentage of the functionality.

Also, is it possible that smaller focused apps will have few edge cases and be more reliable?

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#607

Funny timing. StackBlitz announced Bolt.new ( https://bolt.new/ ) today with multi-file edit, emulated filesystem, arbitrary npm installs, and is open source. I feel ChatGPT is still chasing after Claude 3.5 artifact.

Another comment rather disparages Bolt: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41733485 Has anyone had much experience with it, that can share their findings? I'm happy with Claude Sonnet and can't try every new AI code tool at the rate they are coming out. I'd love to hear informed opinions.

I tried Bolt this morning for about 5 minutes, and it did output valid React code, but things like inputs and buttons it created didn't work without additional prompting, and then it started throwing "There was an error processing your request"

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#608

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just use aider - it’s CLI and open source. You can open terminal in IDE and you just use /add file for context then /drop to clean context. Better than Copilot and just less worse UX than Cursor (which has benefit of knowing which page you have open). There’s also Claude engineer but not tested it yet. Forgot to mention killer feature - droping links to docs automatically fetches them in aider which helps with ground…

Look, I'm just not interested in something that gives me code on the CLI. This is no better or worse than using ChatGPT / Canvas or any other external tool. My project has well over half a million lines of code. I'm using an IDE (in my case Qt Creator) for a reason. I'd love to get help from an LLM but CLI or external browser windows just aren't the way. The overhead of copy/paste and lack of context is a deal breake…

I'd never heard of Qt creator before so I checked it out and their whole front page seems to focus on ai integration?

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#609

Small ot, but it's quite interesting that the highest decisive impact generative AI is having right now is on tech workers and software developers in particular. I'm more and more convinced that we're on the edge of a major shake up in the industry with all these tools. Not getting replaced, but at this rate of improvements I can't unsee major changes. A recent junior I have in my team built his first app entirely wi…

I'm a solo business owner who knows enough JS/TS/HTML/CSS to get by -- my product is a website full of information -- but I've never been 'a developer'. ChatGPT et. al. is a miraculous boost to my productivity. This morning I needed a function to iterate over some JSON and do stuff with it. Fairly mundane, and I could have written it myself. Doing so would have been boring, routine, and would have taken me at least a…

This is the killer app for gen AI. Everything else said about AI e.g replacing workers is just building castles in the air.
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