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The funny thing about this thread is that I have no idea where the Trump starts and the Harris ends. I have learned nothing about anyone's political stances from this back and forth.

> The funny thing about this thread is that I have no idea where the Trump starts and the Harris ends. I have learned nothing about anyone's political stances from this back and forth.

Me neither.

I think it's a very sophisticated two-way dog whistle.

The ideologists on both sides can spot each other a mile away; the rest of us look from pig to man, and man to pig, and can not tell the difference.

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The HN crowd is far right but they would never admit it. Most people are unaware of how political parties shift in composition and ideology over the decades. The contemporary American software engineer resembles the professional class Reagan Republicans who dominated the suburbs in the 80's and 90's.

"Far right" as measured by a hardcore leftie, maybe. If you stand against illegal immigration, criticize superficial DEI "me-too" gestures that do nothing to solve the real issues underneath, or are moderately conservative in any other way, you will have you comments routinely downvoted into oblivion and will be called a Nazi and the second coming of Hitler. Not only in this place, it has become the the norm these da…

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Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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Neither, he is getting onto the bandwagon that he (and his well paid pr team) know is populist. He is a billionaire who is hated, and now has changed his image entirely. Following in Elon's path. People tend not to change their colours at a later age, and he is a cutthroat business guy. Lots of ongoing commentary over the years that he really wants to be President. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/will-mark-zu…

Elon's path may not be the best path to popularity. If Zuck wants popularity, maybe a good way to go about that would be to de-shittify Facebook, Instagram, and so forth so that those platforms respect their users.

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Who'd have thought the AI revolution would be used to just clog feeds up with spam. I suppose there were warning signs, like every previous Internet technology eventually being used for advertising.

Just wait a couple years when truth becomes too difficult to discern. Fairly easy to plug up forums, science journals, YouTube etc with whatever narrative you want once AI gets a little better.

I, for one, look forward to this future where we finally get over our weird obsession with truthfulness.

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If you want to see what's been "moderated" away from you on Hacker News: Click your username at the upper right: Turn on "showdead": showdead: yes. (defaults to "no") There are a number of dead posts in this thread. I'd post some here (some of which don't appear to violate any HN guidelines, I'll note), but probably those same moderators would kill this one, too.

I did this. I spent 10 minutes diffing, only a few things weren't listed. One was just full of cursing and not a useful piece of discussion. Another was a comment claiming that Trans was a concept made up 2 years ago.

So far seems working as intended.

What might be more useful is to get your nerd hat on and run a few diffs through sentiment analysis and post that as a topic. I'd definitely read a ML / Sentiment Analysis / Bias analysis type document, would be a great topic.

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> I know this narrative is appealing to people when someone they disagree with is in the white house but it isn't true. If you are a member of a country club and then Biden or Trump (whichever you dislike more) has you kicked out of the country club, it doesn't become a free speech issue due to their involvement. There may be other issues but it isn't a free speech issue. So it is with private platforms which already…

Country club membership is not a free speech issue. I thought this was an obvious enough example everyone could understand. But I guess the tech companies have polluted the definition and nobody remembers civics class.

If the government punishes you for what you say then of course it's a free speech issue, that's the whole point.

It doesn't matter what exact punishment is applied: e.g expulsion from a country club or a fine.

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“During their dialogue, both tech leaders probed each other’s intentions for expansion. “I remember him asking me whether we were planning to start something on a global basis, on the global level, go for international expansion. I said no,” Durov recalled. Zuckerberg similarly denied any plans to target Durov's domestic market, yet both moved to expand their respective reaches shortly after the meeting. “We both end…

Gotta be honest, if I was talking to a competitor I'd lie about whatever non-public product expansion plans I had too.

That's why I brought the quote, let people draw their own conclusions. Mark isn't to be trusted for a variety of reasons, that conversation isn't one of them lol. Durov was laughing because they both lied to each other

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It's funny because Facebook's news feed in the last couple years is unusable, filled with AI slop and clickbait. Twitter similarly requires aggressive use of block + mute to eliminate scams, clickbait, and other content I'm not interested in. I don't know if this is due to their changes in moderation policy, or if AI has overwhelmed them, but I vastly preferred the old news feeds

A few years back it started showing me obvious political ragebait. I ignored it and then it started showing me pictures of women whose nipples were obviously showing through their clothing, which was an improvement, but still not the reason I signed up for Facebook. I've always understood it as the algorithm is looking for engagement and will try some lowest common denominator tactics to engage in it. As someone who…

What if they had shown you pictures of men whose penises were obviously showing through their pants? Why was Facebook not being gender-neutral with this tactic?

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I wonder if this is coming up just before the election because of the Harris campaign’s suggested policy of capital gains tax on unrealised gains for people who have over $100m in assets? I think this is a great idea personally given what these people are doing to avoid paying tax including taking out loans against their own share portfolios. Worth thinking about what people are willing to do to not pay billions of d…

She didn’t even suggest that she supports that policy, it’s just assumed for some reason despite the fact that she’s already made her own choices on tax policy.
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