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Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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It's extremely rough around the edges but getting into fediverse content (mastodon, kbin, lemmy, etc) has been extremely rewarding to me. It's like twitter and reddit but 15 years ago (and by that I mostly mean it's janky and full of bugs. Just like the web was 15 years ago!)

Public service announcement: the only good thing on twitter, massimo, has at least one mirror on mastodon. https://mastodon.social/@rainmaker1973@birdsite.miisu.net

However, BirdsiteLive instances come with their own information for the public.

* https://jdebp.uk/FGA/fediverse-third-party-mirrors.html

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I wonder what percentage of legitimate traffic is blocked by this. I would imagine that the majority of users don't have an account, by a large margin, correct?

I would not assume that, no. Following accounts is fundamental to using Twitter; I absolutely think the majority of people using Twitter are logged-in.

I have friends who have used Twitter for years to get status updates and read the occasional thread without following, so no, it is not "fundamental".

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This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

It feels like the "natural" development of VC funded websites - they offer a service that's heavily subsidized and losing money hand over fist to displace other services (I guess in Reddit's case it was self-hosted forums and similar?). But that's clearly not sustainable, it's inevitable they'll pivot to monetizing the service - and that's clearly going to make it less attractive than the heavily-subsidized version p…

Reddit didn't need to be heavily subsidized. Old Reddit was open source, had community-built apps, and could have been run indefinitely with a handful of employees and Reddit Gold. Like a Craigslist or Wikipedia model.

Instead with their VC funding they spent $$$ to introduce things like NFTs and TikTok scrolling, which nobody asked for, but it burned through a lot of cash.

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Privatization is a thing beyond seemingly fundamental online services. Local water systems in Guam are privatized, much to the chagrin of local activists. Elsewhere, there's an article on the guardian just like yesterday about the impact of privatization on either the UK's or some locale inside the UK, for their water usage. Basically the water department is now the highest debt entity in all water departments and it…

Electricity markets are a prime example of ideology winning over logic. In Australia, the eastern states have a privatised electricity market while Western Australia has a very limited market with agreements to hold a certain amount of gas fuel at a certain price. Currently the price of electricity is significantly higher in the eastern market than the "less free" western one.

There's absolutely no evidence of privatisation driving up costs in Australia.

It's the hysterical marching cry of young naive people railing against the ever-increasingly vague boogeyman of neoliberalism but the actual evidence doesn't back it up.

You talk about ideology over logic while demonstrating that exact same thing.

> The AER report contains no consistent correlation between higher bills and privatisation.

> The ABS index of electricity prices across Australia, showing movement of electricity prices over time, also doesn't demonstrate a link between privatisation and price rises.

> Whether comparing electricity bills, prices or the relative price index of electricity in each state, there is no consistent link between privatisation and what consumers pay for their electricity.

> Experts say the biggest influences on what people pay for electricity are costs of transmission and distribution. They say these costs have risen in recent years irrespective of whether the owners of the transmission and distribution networks are privatised.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-25/fact-check-does-priva...

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From Elon's twitter ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674942336583757825?s=20 ) "This will be unlocked shortly. Per my earlier post, drastic & immediate action was necessary due to EXTREME levels of data scraping. Almost every company doing AI, from startups to some of the biggest corporations on Earth, was scraping vast amounts of data. It is rather galling to have to bring large numbers of servers online on an…

I wonder if it's people seeking to move away from Twitter and working around crippled APIs, or if it's ClosedAI in which Musk himself invested before...

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This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

To paraphrase Gilmore, “the net interprets [mandatory login and other access fuckery] as censorship and routes around it” If Twitter locks out more readers, people will stop posting and move elsewhere. If Reddit ejects the mods that made it successful, communities will evolve elsewhere. The forest will regrow and different paths will form, routing around the dying patches.

Technically inclined people, perhaps. I think you're underestimating what the vast majority of Internet users are ready to put up with.

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Facebook cut off access to Australian fire brigade pages, among others.

Facebook news is shutting off in Canada where there are currently wildfires. I'm leaving no comment on why.

Yep and nothing of value was lost.
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