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Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by javajosh »

What if we just had sites and RSS-like aggregators? You could subscribe directly to the sources you like. You could then publish the aggregation. In turn you could subscribe to an aggregator, and perhaps even reaggregate their content, too. In this way we can have a distributed method of "following" content that we like.

Basically this vision is one where everyone run's Google Reader in their browser and, if you're really gung-ho, you republish via some VPS hosted thing. The structure is a little like DNS - a hierarchical database.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by javajosh »

darknavi wrote: post #121
nunez wrote: post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

It's extremely rough around the edges but getting into fediverse content (mastodon, kbin, lemmy, etc) has been extremely rewarding to me. It's like twitter and reddit but 15 years ago (and by that I mostly mean it's janky and full of bugs. Just like the web was 15 years ago!)

Public service announcement: the only good thing on twitter, massimo, has at least one mirror on mastodon. https://mastodon.social/@rainmaker1973@birdsite.miisu.net

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by acidburnNSA »

I have an archive of my tweets from a year ago. Not sure if the format changed, but this makes an html file with the full text and images and vids. Format to taste.

    import datetime
    import json
    import os
    import sys

    out = sys.stdout
    media = {}
    for med in os.listdir("data/tweet_media"):
        tid = med.split("-")[0]
        exist = media.get(tid, [])
        exist.append(med)
        media[tid] = exist

    out.write("\n")
    with open("data/tweet.js") as d:
        vals = json.load(d)
        for val in sorted(
            vals,
            key=lambda val: datetime.datetime.strptime(
                val["tweet"]["created_at"], "%a %b %d %H:%M:%S %z %Y"
            ),
        ):
            tweet = val["tweet"]
            out.write("\n")
            out.write(f"{tweet['created_at']}\n")
            for fname in media.get(tweet["id"], []):
                if fname.endswith("mp4"):
                    out.write(
                        f'\n'
                    )
                else:
                    out.write(f'\n')
            if "full_text" in tweet:
                out.write(f'
{tweet["full_text"]}
\n')
            out.write("\n")
    out.write("\n")

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by Nursie »

ImaCake wrote: post #553
ncr100 wrote: post #492

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Privatization is a thing beyond seemingly fundamental online services. Local water systems in Guam are privatized, much to the chagrin of local activists. Elsewhere, there's an article on the guardian just like yesterday about the impact of privatization on either the UK's or some locale inside the UK, for their water usage. Basically the water department is now the highest debt entity in all water departments and it…

Electricity markets are a prime example of ideology winning over logic. In Australia, the eastern states have a privatised electricity market while Western Australia has a very limited market with agreements to hold a certain amount of gas fuel at a certain price. Currently the price of electricity is significantly higher in the eastern market than the "less free" western one.

Yep, god bless our communist energy policy, while the eastern states were screaming about rocketing energy prices a year back, ours were stable because the electricity company is state owned and contributes profit to the public purse, and as you say a certain portion of gas has to be reserved for the local market.

Coming from the UK I don’t want competition in basic utilities like there is there. I don’t want to have to shop around for the best energy price every year, or to be at the mercy of the free market on pricing for the most basic of necessities like power and water.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by zrobotics »

technofiend wrote: post #503
nunez wrote: post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

I mean I consider this a huge win: delete your Twitter account and never again will you be tempted to go read a tweet. If only I could set an anonymous expat cookie for all the services I've left behind letting them know "No, seriously: I left and I'm never coming back. No reason to track me, show me your content or ask me to login." Where's my restraining order cookie telling Facebook to fuck off outta my life, neve…

Hosts file? Blackhole Facebook content entirely?

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by ryan29 »

Terr_ wrote: post #245
darknavi wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's extremely rough around the edges but getting into fediverse content (mastodon, kbin, lemmy, etc) has been extremely rewarding to me. It's like twitter and reddit but 15 years ago (and by that I mostly mean it's janky and full of bugs. Just like the web was 15 years ago!)

For me the main barrier is that I want to have portable/roaming control over my IDENTITY , even if the content hosting is (for now) entirely through a system administered by someone else. If I control the identity, I can at least keep local copies and rehost/repost content later. Instead, it feels like the current Fediverse demands that I make a blind choice to entrust not merely a copy of my content but also my whol…

> For me the main barrier is that I want to have portable/roaming control over my IDENTITY, even if the content hosting is (for now) entirely through a system administered by someone else. If I control the identity, I can at least keep local copies and rehost/repost content later.

This is why I want domains as identities to succeed. I want to own my handle on every platform, but I don’t want to self host.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by nonethewiser »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #143
jamesgreenleaf wrote: post #7

Musk commented on this: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674865731136020505 "Temporary emergency measure. We were getting data pillaged so much that it was degrading service for normal users!"

"Data pillaging", WTF does that mean? Remember when Twitter used to give archives of tweets to the Library of Congress? And had a firehose for folks to consume as many tweets as they could?

It means web scraping.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by kakakiki »

From Elon's twitter (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674942336583757825?s=20)

"This will be unlocked shortly. Per my earlier post, drastic & immediate action was necessary due to EXTREME levels of data scraping.

Almost every company doing AI, from startups to some of the biggest corporations on Earth, was scraping vast amounts of data.

It is rather galling to have to bring large numbers of servers online on an emergency basis just to facilitate some AI startup’s outrageous valuation."

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by keernan »

sowbug wrote: post #547
ShadowBanThis01 wrote: post #415

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They weren't "private" TV networks. They are licensed by the government to use our airwaves, which are accessible by all (except CNN, which is cable). There's a big difference. Governmental and public institutions should not be relying on Twitter for their communications. It's unprofessional at the very least.

They absolutely were/are private, even if they used a publicly owned medium to distribute their content. Other than an hour of public-service airtime on Sunday mornings, and lax FCC enforcement of a decency standard, those private TV networks can do/say anything they want. You wouldn't put quotes around that word for cell-phone companies using licensed bandwidth, or airlines using public airspace, would you?

The broadcast companies are subject to FCC requirements that they must broadcast government emergency notifications. They do NOT have the power to shut down access the way twitter just did.
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