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Re: Why Japanese Toilets Are Failing in America (2013)

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Post by stonemetal » Mon, May 18, 2015, 12:44 AM UTC

simonblack wrote: post #58

"Also, interestingly enough, most people who grew up with bidets believe the toilet paper only method to be unsanitary whereas those brought up on TP only believe bidets to be inferior." If bidets are inferior to TP, then why should we wash our hands after using the toilet? Surely a wipe over of our hands with a piece of TP would be better.

How about you can't compare a bidet to washing your hands. When you wash your hands you use soap and purposefully rinse a way from your body. A bidet just sprays some water with no anti microbial properties, and it makes no attempt to wash germs away from your body. Tp might not be great at going antimicrobial but at least it is intelligently applied to keep germs contained instead of washing them all over your backside.

Re: Why Japanese Toilets Are Failing in America (2013)

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Post by bidetsprayerman » Mon, May 18, 2015, 7:41 AM UTC

bemmu wrote: post #40

tsukikage wrote: post #30

American homes are generally insulated, not drafty, and centrally heated. There is therefore no need to heat your butt to stop it freezing to your toilet seat, and so no overwhelming drive to connect everyone's loos to the mains, and all the other features aren't enough to make it a mainstream purchase.

The heat is nice, but the bidet function is the main reason I'd want one if I ever move from Japan.

Check out the Hand Bidet Sprayer at www.bathroomsprayers.com.

Re: Why Japanese Toilets Are Failing in America (2013)

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Post by bidetsprayerman » Mon, May 18, 2015, 8:38 AM UTC

wtbob wrote: post #3

How do folks use bidets (or those spray-hoses they use in India) without getting water and feces everywhere? How do they dry off without using tons of toilet paper? The whole bidet thing just seems messy and unsanitary. I'm sure that there's a way to use it which isn't messy and unsanitary, but I'm not about to make a mess trying to learn!

It's like riding a bike, before you could ride it looked scary but once you know how it's a breeze. The Hand Bidet Sprayer makes toilet paper obsolete and quite frankly...nasty/ Cleaning with water is the only way to go. If you touched dog poop would you wipe your hand or wash your hand? See www.bathroomsprayers.com.

Re: Why Japanese Toilets Are Failing in America (2013)

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Post by n00b101 » Mon, May 18, 2015, 12:25 PM UTC

ZanyProgrammer wrote: post #9

idlewords wrote: post #7

I brought one of these home from Japan and have been trying it out on unsuspecting houseguests. People usually yelp the first time (surprise heated seat!) and after the second time they're hooked. The water jet is unsettling the first time you use it, but you get used to it quickly. The feeling of having a genuinely clean butt gives you the confidence you need to go crush it in the boardroom.

How do you dry your ass off?

They ones I've seen have built-in driers.

Re: Why Japanese Toilets Are Failing in America (2013)

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Post by bidetsprayerman » Mon, May 25, 2015, 2:44 AM UTC

stonemetal wrote: post #61

simonblack wrote: post #58

"Also, interestingly enough, most people who grew up with bidets believe the toilet paper only method to be unsanitary whereas those brought up on TP only believe bidets to be inferior." If bidets are inferior to TP, then why should we wash our hands after using the toilet? Surely a wipe over of our hands with a piece of TP would be better.

How about you can't compare a bidet to washing your hands. When you wash your hands you use soap and purposefully rinse a way from your body. A bidet just sprays some water with no anti microbial properties, and it makes no attempt to wash germs away from your body. Tp might not be great at going antimicrobial but at least it is intelligently applied to keep germs contained instead of washing them all over your backs…

Intelligently applied to keep germs contained? The intelligence left the building with that statement. Water is 10X more hygienic than toilet paper. Next time you want to wash your hands try wiping them with dry toilet paper.