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Why Japanese Toilets Are Failing in America (2013)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you dry your ass off?

Obviously you still have toilet paper, but in my experience some of these toilets also have air jets for drying.

Based on trying to use toilet paper to dry off from an errant splash, it's not very good at that purpose. It's designed to fall apart as soon as it gets wet. And anything that isn't (paper towels, etc.) should really not go down the drain, as it's likely to form clogs.

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I brought one of these home from Japan and have been trying it out on unsuspecting houseguests. People usually yelp the first time (surprise heated seat!) and after the second time they're hooked. The water jet is unsettling the first time you use it, but you get used to it quickly. The feeling of having a genuinely clean butt gives you the confidence you need to go crush it in the boardroom.

How do you dry your ass off?

Wipe once with toilet paper and you're good to go. It's like the best of Eastern and Western civilization, coming together to clean your ass.

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Before smartphones became the rage, American consumer technology always lagged behind japan in terms of adoption. I think this is still the case for a lot of things, including toilets.

Even in more rural parts of Japan, how quickly is technology adopted? Or do we make the assumption that Tokyo and a few other cities == Japan?

Tokyo alone has 25% of Japan's population. So I think it is fair to say that Tokyo and a few other cities == Japan.

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Before smartphones became the rage, American consumer technology always lagged behind japan in terms of adoption. I think this is still the case for a lot of things, including toilets.

Even in more rural parts of Japan, how quickly is technology adopted? Or do we make the assumption that Tokyo and a few other cities == Japan?

Even then I don't think it's true. Some things caught on big in Japan, but in general it seems that they're no less conservative than consumers in the US. It's not like that started with smart phones, DVD and home computers took off in the US well before they did in Japan.

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I experienced the japanese toilet the first time in 2006. I was curious to try but afraid it would get messy. It takes a bit getting used to. When i came back to the netherlands, i wanted to buy one too but, like the US, no power in the toilet.

After i got my new apartment i had a power outlet built in the toilet. Now im so used to it, sometimes i even look for the remote in other peoples toilets, lol.

They say using TP only cleans 20-30% of bacteria and with a bidet around 95%. Most important is that you feel just fresher down there.

My friends coming over dont use it, but my girlfriend does and loves it.

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Before smartphones became the rage, American consumer technology always lagged behind japan in terms of adoption. I think this is still the case for a lot of things, including toilets.

Yes and no. Fax machines are still more popular than email in Japan.

Re: Why Japanese Toilets Are Failing in America (2013)

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If anyone wants to give it a try, here it is a cheaper alternate [1].

This doesn't require the electricity since it is manual but more or less play the same role like Japanese toilets (without drying facility but you can use TP after using it).

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidet_shower

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I brought one of these home from Japan and have been trying it out on unsuspecting houseguests. People usually yelp the first time (surprise heated seat!) and after the second time they're hooked. The water jet is unsettling the first time you use it, but you get used to it quickly. The feeling of having a genuinely clean butt gives you the confidence you need to go crush it in the boardroom.

> The feeling of having a genuinely clean butt gives you the confidence you need to go crush it in the boardroom. Can't speak to bidets, but a while back on a whim I bought some flushable moist wipes and started using just like one at the end. Yeah knowing you have a clean butt is totally a confidence booster. Side note: on the general toilet subject Niagra Conserveration's 1.25 gallon flaperless toilet is excellent…

Was looking at the Niagra Conservation website, they seem to sell only through distributors and plumbing professionals. Are these sold for DIY installation?

Re: Why Japanese Toilets Are Failing in America (2013)

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Here's my answer: * no plugs near the toilet in American homes * too f'ing expensive Combined, these two turn getting a Japanese style toilet into a multi-thousand dollar investment. To compare, even reasonably nice toilets cost There are U.S. homes with Bidets in them. My sister had one in the master bath of her 1940s era home. But they're again another $200-400 prices plus plumbing costs. If somebody made a Japanes…

"no plugs near the toilet in American homes"

Yes this is the reason we don't have one in our home... the licensed electrical work needed is both too much of a hassle and expensive. Electrical work, especially in the bathroom, is not something I'm willing to hack.

Re: Why Japanese Toilets Are Failing in America (2013)

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American homes are generally insulated, not drafty, and centrally heated. There is therefore no need to heat your butt to stop it freezing to your toilet seat, and so no overwhelming drive to connect everyone's loos to the mains, and all the other features aren't enough to make it a mainstream purchase.
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