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Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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It's infuriating to live in a country with such outstanding tech infrastructure to be shackled with these insane policies. Not to mention ActiveX and eight different plugin downloads for nearly any transaction, Spring/Java being considered the cutting edge in web development, and the downright Fascist porn restrictions (no I'm not bitter).

Hey, at least you don't live in China....

Hi, what's your current project now?

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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post #51

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What kind of degenerate society likens the restriction of teenager's ability to view porn to Fascism?

"the downright Fascist porn restrictions (no I'm not bitter)" doesn't say anything about teenagers specifically.

"the country's telecoms regulator ordered monitoring applications be installed on the smartphones of Koreans aged 18 and below"

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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What kind of degenerate society likens the restriction of teenager's ability to view porn to Fascism?

Nice moving of the goalposts there. An authoritarian intrusion into private behaviour is an example of an activity done by a fascist state, hence the GP's adjective. But your comment converts that into the entire ideology of facism. Also, nice job inserting 'teenagers' into a comment that made no mention of any age group.

As mentioned above, the article is referring to those 'under 18'. Does your 'state' not restrict access to porn magazines for those under 18 now?

In Florida it's a felony. Florida Statute 847.012 - Max 5 years.

Why? Because it's degenerate, and your state agrees.

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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post #61

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Hey, at least you don't live in China....

Hi, what's your current project now?

Same as always, working on a grand live programming demo for the end of this summer.

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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On top of that, Korean Internet connections come with mandatory porn filters in order to protect the local prostitution industry. It's shameful.

Do you have a link for this? As crazy as the linked article is, I find this hard to believe about SK too.

Typing this response from downtown Seoul, and can confirm that censorship is very prevalent. There are thousands of blacklisted sites -- they are simply forwarded to http://warning.or.kr/, which reads "This site has been legally blocked by government regulations." The numbers on the table below are different agencies you can call to appeal the block if you think it's unwarranted. Most people who are annoyed by it just VPN to Japan and ignore it.

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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Why settle for an image? http://warning.or.kr Bonus 2001 javascript throwback: they try to block right click.

I love how the whole top banner is a static image.

Then you're going to love every other Korean website, too.

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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Every day the envelope gets pushed further and further. This is one of the driving factors behind my shifting view to be behind an unlimited Freedom of Speech/Information viewpoint. No restriction on any speech/information, including monitoring that would have a chilling effect. I realize it isn't perfect, but I think it is better than the alternative. Also, someone needs to take the extreme stance because if the onl…

I hate to play devil's advocate, but what about things like intellectual property or (ugh, even saying this makes me feel like a scumbag politician) child pornography? I can see the argument for the virtual variety of CP, but what about the real kind? I'm genuinely curious how the unlimited viewpoint can be defended against these types of arguments.

There are very good counter arguments you can easily find online.

I'll give you my favorites.

For intellectual property, it is not real property. Property is the category of things that are material and can exchange hands. Data, like speech, does not get literally exchanged, but copied. So there's no such thing as intellectual property.

Imagine you can memorize whole books. Would that be illegal? What if your friends could phone you and ask you to recite some paragraphs from memory, would that be illegal? What if you were part of a group of people that memorized the books they own and they ask each other to recite over the phone one page a day from a book they don't have? A hard-drive is a shortcut for that brain capacity we don't yet have. But if we did have that capacity to memorize, it would not be illegal. So instead of enjoying hard-drives to freely books and songs, we are criminalizing an arbitrary human enhancement.

For child pornography, I find it hard to justify the suppression of criminal evidence. We all should fear a government that has the power to arrest someone and suppress the evidence for their crime. If someone kills someone else even if just to film it, that would be a crime (or many crimes) but the video should not be illegal to possess. Evidence of gruesome deaths (intentional or not) are likewise legal to possess. What should be illegal is the act in itself, not the documentation with which we prove the crime.

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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>the country's telecoms regulator ordered monitoring applications be installed on the smartphones of Koreans aged 18 and below This is disgusting to read, in all seriousness. Not allowed to have a blog without linking it to their SSN, not allowed to play games without linking it to their SSN, all communications monitored, chat logged.. holy shit. Getting a mobile phone also requires one.. (and that's not even countin…

Every day the envelope gets pushed further and further. This is one of the driving factors behind my shifting view to be behind an unlimited Freedom of Speech/Information viewpoint. No restriction on any speech/information, including monitoring that would have a chilling effect. I realize it isn't perfect, but I think it is better than the alternative. Also, someone needs to take the extreme stance because if the onl…

This is fine for the most privileged, but unlimited speech means unlimited ability for harassment.

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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post #51

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"the downright Fascist porn restrictions (no I'm not bitter)" doesn't say anything about teenagers specifically.

"the country's telecoms regulator ordered monitoring applications be installed on the smartphones of Koreans aged 18 and below"

I read the article too.

sooheon, who suggested that he/she lives in Korea, made no such stipulation. Of note, distribution (and maybe possession -- I am not sure) of porn is illegal in Korea in general -- not just for those under 18.

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