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Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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Like Korean teenagers won't immediately develop a code words to evade this. I'm not sure if there's already an equivalent to l33tsp34k in Korean, but if not, there is now.

I think you're absolutely right. Not sure about Korean, but Japanese youngn's have already invented their own obfuscated script called ギャル文字 (Gyaru-moji): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyaru-moji. I've tried to read it but it's quite difficult. What's interesting, however, is how fast it could evolve. The authorities will have a hard time keeping up even when they do catch on.

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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>the country's telecoms regulator ordered monitoring applications be installed on the smartphones of Koreans aged 18 and below This is disgusting to read, in all seriousness. Not allowed to have a blog without linking it to their SSN, not allowed to play games without linking it to their SSN, all communications monitored, chat logged.. holy shit. Getting a mobile phone also requires one.. (and that's not even countin…

Every day the envelope gets pushed further and further. This is one of the driving factors behind my shifting view to be behind an unlimited Freedom of Speech/Information viewpoint. No restriction on any speech/information, including monitoring that would have a chilling effect. I realize it isn't perfect, but I think it is better than the alternative. Also, someone needs to take the extreme stance because if the onl…

I hate to play devil's advocate, but what about things like intellectual property or (ugh, even saying this makes me feel like a scumbag politician) child pornography? I can see the argument for the virtual variety of CP, but what about the real kind? I'm genuinely curious how the unlimited viewpoint can be defended against these types of arguments.

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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post #6

>the country's telecoms regulator ordered monitoring applications be installed on the smartphones of Koreans aged 18 and below This is disgusting to read, in all seriousness. Not allowed to have a blog without linking it to their SSN, not allowed to play games without linking it to their SSN, all communications monitored, chat logged.. holy shit. Getting a mobile phone also requires one.. (and that's not even countin…

It's infuriating to live in a country with such outstanding tech infrastructure to be shackled with these insane policies. Not to mention ActiveX and eight different plugin downloads for nearly any transaction, Spring/Java being considered the cutting edge in web development, and the downright Fascist porn restrictions (no I'm not bitter).

What kind of degenerate society likens the restriction of teenager's ability to view porn to Fascism?

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

#35

This is the digital equivalent of America's beer laws - you cannot drink till you are 21; but hey you can vote, get married, join the army (and drive a tank or handle nukes presumably) but NO DRINKING! Every single American college person I have talked to (almost without exception) talks about the non-stop binges they go on when they hit 21. Now the South Korean kids will go on Digital binges when they hit 18 - what…

> Every single American college person I have talked to (almost without exception) talks about the non-stop binges they go on when they hit 21.

Yeah, but those start as soon as you show up to university. Typically that's before 21.

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

#36
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's infuriating to live in a country with such outstanding tech infrastructure to be shackled with these insane policies. Not to mention ActiveX and eight different plugin downloads for nearly any transaction, Spring/Java being considered the cutting edge in web development, and the downright Fascist porn restrictions (no I'm not bitter).

What kind of degenerate society likens the restriction of teenager's ability to view porn to Fascism?

Any society that is not fascist?

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's infuriating to live in a country with such outstanding tech infrastructure to be shackled with these insane policies. Not to mention ActiveX and eight different plugin downloads for nearly any transaction, Spring/Java being considered the cutting edge in web development, and the downright Fascist porn restrictions (no I'm not bitter).

What kind of degenerate society likens the restriction of teenager's ability to view porn to Fascism?

I should point out that they killed off (any form of gay, really) LGBT-rights sites with the reason "perversion", not just porn

If we're talking teenagers, imagine googling sex ed terms and having to enter your ssn[0]

[0]http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2008/03/age-verification-at...

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every day the envelope gets pushed further and further. This is one of the driving factors behind my shifting view to be behind an unlimited Freedom of Speech/Information viewpoint. No restriction on any speech/information, including monitoring that would have a chilling effect. I realize it isn't perfect, but I think it is better than the alternative. Also, someone needs to take the extreme stance because if the onl…

I hate to play devil's advocate, but what about things like intellectual property or (ugh, even saying this makes me feel like a scumbag politician) child pornography? I can see the argument for the virtual variety of CP, but what about the real kind? I'm genuinely curious how the unlimited viewpoint can be defended against these types of arguments.

> but what about the real kind?

You mean the kind of child abuse that's been occurring for centuries before we even thought up the electron? Or are just worried about how these images of abuse end up getting distributed?

If it's the latter, then fine, censor the internet. If it's the former, you're going to need a more comprehensive plan.

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every day the envelope gets pushed further and further. This is one of the driving factors behind my shifting view to be behind an unlimited Freedom of Speech/Information viewpoint. No restriction on any speech/information, including monitoring that would have a chilling effect. I realize it isn't perfect, but I think it is better than the alternative. Also, someone needs to take the extreme stance because if the onl…

I hate to play devil's advocate, but what about things like intellectual property or (ugh, even saying this makes me feel like a scumbag politician) child pornography? I can see the argument for the virtual variety of CP, but what about the real kind? I'm genuinely curious how the unlimited viewpoint can be defended against these types of arguments.

Intellectual property is ideal theft. It exists mainly to employ lawyers and enrich middlemen. That some creators are accidentally rewarded is a byproduct that is used to justify the rest of it.

Re: Don't text 'beer' in Korea: Words that trigger teen alerts

#40

This is the digital equivalent of America's beer laws - you cannot drink till you are 21; but hey you can vote, get married, join the army (and drive a tank or handle nukes presumably) but NO DRINKING! Every single American college person I have talked to (almost without exception) talks about the non-stop binges they go on when they hit 21. Now the South Korean kids will go on Digital binges when they hit 18 - what…

Those drinking binges do not start at 21, they start at ~18 (or earlier), when people go off to college / enter adulthood.

By the time Americans are 21, drinking isn't a new fascination any longer.

Personally I've never met someone that waited until 21 to be legal and then began drinking furiously.

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