I was really excited about Visual Studio for a chance at Coffeescript intellisense, however I learned after the several gig download it wasn't supported. It seems there is basically no way to get proper autocomplete in any editor for CS, suggesting maybe I should just consider Babel for ES6/7 despite my massive love for CS and giant projects built in it.
Node.js Tools for Visual Studio
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah I was being hyperbolic, but my point still stands. The LARGE majority of developers have accepted unix as their overlord, and that poses a huge problem to microsoft as they're a second thought. They're forced to try to fit new frameworks into their ecosystem, rather than on unix where developers expect it to run. I see it ultimately as damage control. With the overwhelming majority of developers on unix, you're…
What evidence do you have that the majority of developers are on Unix? Just web devs or all devs? I doubt that it's true in either case. IT departments around the world employ programmers to make all sorts of business apps including internet/intranet web apps. Even some very small companies have custom apps to do business and the vast majority of businesses are using Windows.
There seems to be a common thread on HN of people assuming that trendy startups are the entirety of the software industry.
Re: Node.js Tools for Visual Studio
#63I was really excited about Visual Studio for a chance at Coffeescript intellisense, however I learned after the several gig download it wasn't supported. It seems there is basically no way to get proper autocomplete in any editor for CS, suggesting maybe I should just consider Babel for ES6/7 despite my massive love for CS and giant projects built in it.
Have you tried IntelliJ IDEA?
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#64How many people do you think will actually use this? I just really cannot ever see mass use of azure and visual studio in the web ecosystem. The people writing nodejs code are all using vim and unix, and you're asking them to give up their workflow and change operating systems. I want to be able to poke around in bash. (edited back in) Sure, some people new to web programming might go this route. But the next big web…
Ultimately, MS' business in web development is tied to selling an IDE and Azure. Both have had to change to incorporate the tools people are using (JavaScript), not just the tools MS control (C#/.NET). I agree, the "Embrace, extend and extinguish" philosophy has apparently been replaced with "Embrace and hope to stay relevant".
I think they are doing a good job at handling that change. I don't personally want to be constrained to doing everything within an IDE, and I'd rather use the tools directly than have them abstracted to look like native MS tools, but that's their business model, and it is slick and works for a lot of people.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any chance that it'll support Babel (known previously as 6to5) + JSX (The react extensions to JavaScript)? I love Visual Studio and I also love to write ES6 - I don't want to choose.
make a feature request! we're a small team, so we have to prioritize - generally the policy is to build what people want. works well enough :) https://nodejstools.codeplex.com/workitem/list/basic
I added one for JSX: https://nodejstools.codeplex.com/workitem/1916
Re: Node.js Tools for Visual Studio
#67How many people do you think will actually use this? I just really cannot ever see mass use of azure and visual studio in the web ecosystem. The people writing nodejs code are all using vim and unix, and you're asking them to give up their workflow and change operating systems. I want to be able to poke around in bash. (edited back in) Sure, some people new to web programming might go this route. But the next big web…
I think your original comment mentioned that you'd want console access. While I was grabbing a screenshot, it looks like you edited your comment and removed that, but I think that was a valid concern. There's a web based console that's sadly not that well known. Here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/Lrw7lL1.png Here's a video showing more of the features (it's from 2013, it looks better and more has been added sinc…
Wow, that's fantastic. One of the things I love about Google's cloud is the easy SSH-in-browser. If Azure has this I'd love to use it. I hope it's just not tied to that terrible new portal. It's just so slow (in rendering, esp. over RDP) and clunky and laggy and confusing. The old one is far better (and would be all I want if they'd just move all the services I never use to the bottom so I don't have to scroll).
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#68Dev here - happy to answer any questions you have :)
Any chance that it'll support Babel (known previously as 6to5) + JSX (The react extensions to JavaScript)? I love Visual Studio and I also love to write ES6 - I don't want to choose.
JSX sounds great. I hope more people vote for it.
Re: Node.js Tools for Visual Studio
#69I was really excited about Visual Studio for a chance at Coffeescript intellisense, however I learned after the several gig download it wasn't supported. It seems there is basically no way to get proper autocomplete in any editor for CS, suggesting maybe I should just consider Babel for ES6/7 despite my massive love for CS and giant projects built in it.
Have you tried IntelliJ IDEA?
I've tried Webstorm and assumed IntelliJ IDEA had the same pitfalls, which, if I recall correctly, was poor performance and flaky autocompletion. I'll have to download it anyway and try though, if only to see what it looks like to have intellisense!
Re: Node.js Tools for Visual Studio
#70How many people do you think will actually use this? I just really cannot ever see mass use of azure and visual studio in the web ecosystem. The people writing nodejs code are all using vim and unix, and you're asking them to give up their workflow and change operating systems. I want to be able to poke around in bash. (edited back in) Sure, some people new to web programming might go this route. But the next big web…
Bascially most .NET developers and other developers using Windows likes this. Why complain that a tool exist on a platform you don't use?
Please ask MS for a Linux version of Visual Studio if you want to and think that would help Linux users.