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Re: Look, no hands

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post #45

Most people tend to get RSI when they first he very active in computer work,and after a year or so they find a healthy posture and their hands strengthen and it isn't an issue. This article seems like a gimmick by someone who wants to be special instead of using perfectly effective solutions. Or it is a joke.

I think it's pretty presumptuous to claim that this person is suffering from RSI and should just "find a healthy posture". There are very many causes for wrist pain, ranging from carpal tunnel syndrome to osteoarthritis. A bad posture might contribute to wrist pain, but even the best posture won't cure someone suffering from gout. The author hasn't shared the reason for her wrist pain, most likely because she doesn't…

Not defending the original commenter, but to be fair, she did mention RSI specifically in the article.

    I'd somehow managed to complete my first project course without making my RSI worse

Re: Look, no hands

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post #5

Only one mention of a doctor, once in the whole page, and he says to give it a rest and she'll be ok. Then she says she spends 50% of the time using her hands normally? No mention of further deterioration, or further attempts to figure out the problem? It seems like it's more important to her to say "look I am clever" than actually solve the problem here.

The article is about the amazing things she's doing, how she's doing them, and, more broadly, all the fun she's having with design. It will benefit many people. She's under no obligation to report the details of her medical investigations.

Adding medical information would benefit those people more.

Re: Look, no hands

#64
post #23

Sincerely... all I can think about is not that she found a good solution to her problem, but the fact that she "achieved the same level of accuracy" (and I suppose speed). This is not something about her capabilities, but about the limitation of current input devices regarding our hands. This is the proof that using a touch pad with your nose is not worse that using it with your hand. There is something wrong in this…

Or you can look at it from an optimistic-almost-narcissistic point of view and say that the interfaces that we have are so well-deaigned either by accident or on purpose that the same level of accuracy can be achieved with whatever appendage. Personally, I think we stumbled onto a design that works well after years of trials. When you look at children using tablets, for example, you quickly realize that they don't ha…

That's a false dichotomy, saying that it's one or the other.

We could have much higher precision, and add highly sensitive pressure sensitivity. For most tasks touch sensitive surfaces would be identical and equally easy to get into, except that they would allow for much higher ceilings of mastery and skill than they do now.

Re: Look, no hands

#65
tl;dr. Young ambitious person gets first chance at job she is trained for, feels pressure to work long hours without complaint. Because of too much work, now she can't use her arms half of the time, instead draws with nose and made portfolio site with nose-drawing as central focus.

Re: Look, no hands

#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's pretty presumptuous to claim that this person is suffering from RSI and should just "find a healthy posture". There are very many causes for wrist pain, ranging from carpal tunnel syndrome to osteoarthritis. A bad posture might contribute to wrist pain, but even the best posture won't cure someone suffering from gout. The author hasn't shared the reason for her wrist pain, most likely because she doesn't…

Not defending the original commenter, but to be fair, she did mention RSI specifically in the article. I'd somehow managed to complete my first project course without making my RSI worse

The way I understood the story was that she didn't know what the problem with her hands was, but she called it RSI for lack of a better word. I didn't read that line as stating she was actually diagnosed with RSI.

But even if she had meant it that way, it's still presumptuous to claim a better posture would cure her.

Re: Look, no hands

#67
I've tried head tracking devices and found my neck and shoulders get stressed. I imagine the same thing would happen hunched over a trackpad with the nose. The small neck movements are similar to head tracking.

Check out the Imak SmartGlove with Thumb, I can't use a computer without it. Well, of course I can but it is much less comfortable. The glove plus a Kensington Expert Mouse (which is actually a trackball with a scroll ring) plus a good chair (eg Steelcase Leap) will help a LOT.

Re: Look, no hands

#68
File in the "for what its worth" file:

When I started to get some pain in my wrists, I noticed it most when I was using photoshop and clicking a great deal. I tore apart an old USB mouse and wired a pair of foot switches in so I could click with my feet as well. It helped quite a bit. Now I rather prefer it, especially the right click action.

Re: Look, no hands

#69
I'm Michelle (the girl in the video). This thread is really fascinating to me. I'll add some more details to the discussion below. I was diagnosed with epicodylitis (tennis albow) and I tried a range of different treatments: electrical therapy, accipunture, anti-inflammatory tablets and some kind of light therapy(?) But without any results (probably why I can't remember the last treatment).

Also notised there were some questions about neck pains, If I adjust the nose-pad to the right level and angle it right it forces me to sit up straight. However, in the video my back is arched quite a lot because I was sitting at a table that was too low (but it was only a temporary setup).

Re: Look, no hands

#70
post #23

Sincerely... all I can think about is not that she found a good solution to her problem, but the fact that she "achieved the same level of accuracy" (and I suppose speed). This is not something about her capabilities, but about the limitation of current input devices regarding our hands. This is the proof that using a touch pad with your nose is not worse that using it with your hand. There is something wrong in this…

> This is not something about her capabilities, but about the limitation of current input devices regarding our hands. I think it's more a story about our adaptability in general. Many years ago, I worked with a developer who happened to be blind. While coding, he used an audio screen reader. If you've ever heard one, you know that they can be set to read incredibly fast, such that it sounds like absolute gibberish t…

A few years ago I took a tech support call from a guy who was visually impaired and had voice over turned on. It read incredibly fast, he had no problems following instructions, and was familiar enough with what we were doing to make the call easy for both of us.

I also used to work as a personal assistant for a guy in a wheelchair who used Dragon Speakeasy, I think that was back in 2005 - '06ish, and was surprised how well he was able to use his PC. He also had a book turning machine that reliably turned one page at a time.

This also reminds me of people who ride bikes using echo location.[1]

I wonder if it's possible to generate a sound stream from video, and what sort of resolution and colour depth could be encoded in to the sound.

This TED talk by Daniel Kish is good too.[2]

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_E3zxx2l9g 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRA-asTuP_Y

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