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So where are the police in all of this? Are you telling me I can send an email threatening mass murder to whomever I want and there are no consequences. We've seen kids thrown in jail for indirect comments on Facebook, surely this is more tangible.
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She runs a show called 'Feminist Frequency', dedicated to calling out sexist tropes in video games (amongst other things). She appears to have become one of the enemies of the movement known as "#GamerGate". Proponents of the movement will tell you it's about ethics in game journalism, but in reality it seems to have largely become corrupted by misogyny and the like. Several female game developers and journalists hav…
but in reality it seems to have largely become corrupted by misogyny and the like Not any more than you'll find idiots in any movement - I would liken them more to the vandals that presented themselves during Occupy Wall Street. I hang around the organizing points for the GamerGate stuff - people are remarkably level headed and respectful (and absolutely NOT driven by misogyny). There is no organized harassment happe…
Perhaps. But I am have been involved in (for example) movements around agile development, the Python programming language, and the need to hire more women in programming and other technical positions. None of these movements have, that I am aware of, generated fringe movements that have threatened people so they had to leave their homes, nor have they caused universities to cancel lectures over safety concerns.
If this "GamerGate" movement is, indeed, level-headed and respectful, then could we arrange for leaders of the movement to publicly and forcefully denounce the threats of violence? For instance, GamerGate leaders could organize a fund-raiser to provide a forum for Anita Sarkeesian to present her talk.
Any behavior like this would significantly increase my opinion of the movement -- of which I presently have an extremely low opinion.
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She runs a show called 'Feminist Frequency', dedicated to calling out sexist tropes in video games (amongst other things). She appears to have become one of the enemies of the movement known as "#GamerGate". Proponents of the movement will tell you it's about ethics in game journalism, but in reality it seems to have largely become corrupted by misogyny and the like. Several female game developers and journalists hav…
but in reality it seems to have largely become corrupted by misogyny and the like Not any more than you'll find idiots in any movement - I would liken them more to the vandals that presented themselves during Occupy Wall Street. I hang around the organizing points for the GamerGate stuff - people are remarkably level headed and respectful (and absolutely NOT driven by misogyny). There is no organized harassment happe…
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but in reality it seems to have largely become corrupted by misogyny and the like Not any more than you'll find idiots in any movement - I would liken them more to the vandals that presented themselves during Occupy Wall Street. I hang around the organizing points for the GamerGate stuff - people are remarkably level headed and respectful (and absolutely NOT driven by misogyny). There is no organized harassment happe…
> Not any more than you'll find idiots in any movement. Perhaps. But I am have been involved in (for example) movements around agile development, the Python programming language, and the need to hire more women in programming and other technical positions. None of these movements have, that I am aware of, generated fringe movements that have threatened people so they had to leave their homes, nor have they caused uni…
There are no "leaders of the movement". There are a few Twitter/YouTube personalities that are popular and have been rallied around, but they don't control anything.
Most of the GG organizing takes place on anonymous imageboards and IRC, and most of it is through consensus along the lines of: "Hey, we should do X!" "That sounds like a good idea!"
..could organize a fund-raiser to provide a forum for Anita Sarkeesian to present her talk.
Counterproductive at best, considering that GG takes issue with Sarkeesian's presentation of the facts. Now, if she would agree to a moderated debate about same, that would be just about perfect. I would personally contribute resources to making that happen.
Before this was cancelled, Utah State University police announced "enhanced security measures will now be in place, which include prohibiting backpacks and any large bags." But anyone who had a permit to carry a concealed firearm would be allowed to bring it to the venue. I guess the theory is that anyone targeting Ms. Sarkeesian would have gone down in a hail of patriot bullets, but she wisely decided not to test th…
So where are the police in all of this? Are you telling me I can send an email threatening mass murder to whomever I want and there are no consequences. We've seen kids thrown in jail for indirect comments on Facebook, surely this is more tangible.
So the answer seems to be: pretty much. Threatening someone online is highly illegal [18 U.S. Code § 875 (c)], but prosecution is rare.
[1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/10/...
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Notice I did not accuse her of anything, simply stating two facts. Why the down votes? All I am saying is that whoever made the threats clearly doesn't want the issue to go away ... Come on guys!
Don't simply say "why the downvotes". Back up your argument with facts and reasoning, and if you're right, it should stand on its own. If you're getting downvotes...you aren't right.
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She runs a show called 'Feminist Frequency', dedicated to calling out sexist tropes in video games (amongst other things). She appears to have become one of the enemies of the movement known as "#GamerGate". Proponents of the movement will tell you it's about ethics in game journalism, but in reality it seems to have largely become corrupted by misogyny and the like. Several female game developers and journalists hav…
but in reality it seems to have largely become corrupted by misogyny and the like Not any more than you'll find idiots in any movement - I would liken them more to the vandals that presented themselves during Occupy Wall Street. I hang around the organizing points for the GamerGate stuff - people are remarkably level headed and respectful (and absolutely NOT driven by misogyny). There is no organized harassment happe…
It's well documented that the whole thing started as focused harassment of Zoe Quinn. Now other women are being harassed. The effects of the campaign is that women are withdrawing from publishing indie games or writing about games. Nothing is being done that addresses "ethics in journalism".
Regarding your edits: Somehow the willingness of gamergate perpetrators to condemn harassment of women only manifests when people are bringing up that that's what gamergate does, and is conspicuously missing when actual harassment happens and goes unchallenged.
It's a very thin veneer of civility. Somehow all the "battles" you "pick" just happen to be against women in no position of authority, mostly not even journalists.
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> Not any more than you'll find idiots in any movement. Perhaps. But I am have been involved in (for example) movements around agile development, the Python programming language, and the need to hire more women in programming and other technical positions. None of these movements have, that I am aware of, generated fringe movements that have threatened people so they had to leave their homes, nor have they caused uni…
then could we arrange for leaders of the movement There are no "leaders of the movement". There are a few Twitter/YouTube personalities that are popular and have been rallied around, but they don't control anything. Most of the GG organizing takes place on anonymous imageboards and IRC, and most of it is through consensus along the lines of: "Hey, we should do X!" "That sounds like a good idea!" ..could organize a fu…
I'm not even sure what GG is trying to do by sending death threats to Anita and harassing Zoe Quinn. It just looks like they are doing it for it's own sake.