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Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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Post by idlewords »

kelvin0 wrote: post #14
ceejayoz wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If this threat is manufactured, well this would indeed be quite a Machiavellian PR stunt ... That's a common accusation by the GamerGate folks, but given the number of other women in the gaming arena receiving similar harassment it's pretty believable that these are real.

Notice I did not accuse her of anything, simply stating two facts. Why the down votes? All I am saying is that whoever made the threats clearly doesn't want the issue to go away ... Come on guys!

You're getting downvoted because of the obvious and obnoxious insinuation.

Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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Post by retrocombine »

hnha wrote: post #28

oh, what a fruitful discussion this might trigger.. What I don't get is how they constantly counter-act the common rules on how to deal with trolls or stalkers. It really feels like they are bathing in the outrage, not interested in actually solving it. And that's one reason why I sadly don't feel any sympathy but rather understand the vocal (non socio-/psychopath) critics. There is no fair discussion so I wish the m…

Speaking out against being harassed is not "bathing in the outrage". You sound completely biased, as well. I don't trust you as a neutral observer.

Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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Post by [deleted] »

ceejayoz wrote: post #20
jbob2000 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She raised a bunch of money from a kickstarter to make a series of videos about women in video games. The videos got a lot of stuff wrong about video games and she really had to reach to get her point across.

Naturally, the appropriate reaction to that is death threats. edit: Sorry, unclear. Not accusing the parent of this opinion.

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Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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Post by JayOtter »

retrocombine wrote: post #23
JayOtter wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole of 'GamerGate' feels almost like a PR stunt to turn the world's media against gamers. The irony is almost palpable.

GG laid down that framework itself. If it feels like a PR stunt against gamers, that's because it really is turning a lot of people against gamers. The difference is, the GGers did it to themselves.

Oh I'm well aware. I'm not sure any PR stunt could have done a better job, though.

Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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Post by ben0x539 »

jbob2000 wrote: post #15
dominotw wrote: post #2

Never heard of her before. Why is she so famous to elicit such an extreme reaction ?

She raised a bunch of money from a kickstarter to make a series of videos about women in video games. The videos got a lot of stuff wrong about video games and she really had to reach to get her point across.

More like people are reaching to paint her as not delivering. The most on-point criticism of her work I've heard is that it's a bit entry-level, but what can you do when even entry-level media critique is too harsh for your audience?

Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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Post by archagon »

eevilspock wrote: post #22
dominotw wrote: post #2

Never heard of her before. Why is she so famous to elicit such an extreme reaction ?

Articles have appeared on the front page before, but they keep getting flagged off. Which to me is a sad commentary on the Hacker News community. I'd provide a link but HN's search engine doesn't include articles marked [Dead] .

We've had good discussions on the topic. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8425501

(Not GG, but closely related.)

Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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Post by _wdh »

kelvin0 wrote: post #5

I probably watch too many shows, but wouldn't that kind of threat (real or manufactured) actually push the speaker further into the limelight? So if this an actual threat (most likely) the 'bully' is really playing into her hands, so to speak. If this threat is manufactured, well this would indeed be quite a Machiavellian PR stunt ...

I really don't think anyone creates a marketing plan that involves fake death threats. That just doesn't make any sense, especially as she doesn't need to manufacture an outrage against her.

Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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Post by jbob2000 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #20
jbob2000 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She raised a bunch of money from a kickstarter to make a series of videos about women in video games. The videos got a lot of stuff wrong about video games and she really had to reach to get her point across.

Naturally, the appropriate reaction to that is death threats. edit: Sorry, unclear. Not accusing the parent of this opinion.

Absolutely not, I did not intend to suggest that, just providing a TLDR; of her and why some people are upset.

Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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Post by retrocombine »

kelvin0 wrote: post #14
ceejayoz wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If this threat is manufactured, well this would indeed be quite a Machiavellian PR stunt ... That's a common accusation by the GamerGate folks, but given the number of other women in the gaming arena receiving similar harassment it's pretty believable that these are real.

Notice I did not accuse her of anything, simply stating two facts. Why the down votes? All I am saying is that whoever made the threats clearly doesn't want the issue to go away ... Come on guys!

Don't simply say "why the downvotes". Back up your argument with facts and reasoning, and if you're right, it should stand on its own. If you're getting downvotes...you aren't right.
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