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same here (FireFox 3.5.3, Ubuntu Jaunty) EDIT: Fixed. Wow that was fast!
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Good programmer FTW.
Experiment: No Comment Scores
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Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores
#62Wow, this interferes with key elements of my system for voting/commenting on HN. Here are some things that don't work now: * If a comment is sitting at 1 or 0, I'll try to avoid downvoting it unless I really think the comment subtracts value from the site. * If a child is attracting more votes than the parent, and I think this is because the child commenter didn't comprehend what the parent was saying, I vote to leve…
Voting patterns showed a lot of users voted to get a comment to what they felt was an appropriate score: they wouldn't up- or downvote something unless they felt its current score was too low or high respectively. But if comment scores aren't displayed, you won't need to anymore.
Hmmm... I always considered that a feature rather than a bug. Only voting when the scores looked "wrong" was an optimization. How do I decide when to vote now? I have a feeling I'm going to settle into a pattern of voting to reorder comments and that I'm going to vote less overall.
Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores
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If you click on "threads" to see your comments it still shows your scores per comment.
I just added that.
"I just added that."
This is great. So now I can see which of my comments are getting voted up/down and so have feedback for my writing, but I have to vote other comments up or down based on content (and author sometimes I guess).
Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores
#64I think only showing votes for comments and links once you've voted would be a better solution. It's what I'm trying with a side-project of mine.
Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores
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I just added that.
"I just added that." This is great. So now I can see which of my comments are getting voted up/down and so have feedback for my writing, but I have to vote other comments up or down based on content (and author sometimes I guess).
Just curious... why author? Why not just content?
Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores
#66Weird suggestion: now hide the contributor too, avoiding the "vote pg up anyway"category of upvotes. Then there's just a list of comments and one can vote them up or down on the content of the comment. Ok I did say it was weird. EDIT: Some great counterpoints below. I agree with them. This is a bad idea.
Knowing who wrote a comment often provides very useful context (especially when there is back-and-forth discussion going on).
Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores
#67Wow, this interferes with key elements of my system for voting/commenting on HN. Here are some things that don't work now: * If a comment is sitting at 1 or 0, I'll try to avoid downvoting it unless I really think the comment subtracts value from the site. * If a child is attracting more votes than the parent, and I think this is because the child commenter didn't comprehend what the parent was saying, I vote to leve…
Voting patterns showed a lot of users voted to get a comment to what they felt was an appropriate score: they wouldn't up- or downvote something unless they felt its current score was too low or high respectively. But if comment scores aren't displayed, you won't need to anymore.
You're discounting the effect of the age factor -- I don't downvote high-position low-score comments for reordering purposes because I know it'll probably decay down anyway.
I don't want to be the asshat to drop a comment below 1, just because there's a better comment that's currently below it (but probably with more karma). At least from my usage, you'll see a net gain in karma inflation.
Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores
#68If you gave me the option to switch karma on/off for submissions and comments, I would likely leave both off.
Leaving karma off somehow gives me confidence to contribute more.
Another idea is to remove the (time 'ago). Good comments are timeless :) and old comments seem like nobody is watching anymore, so the dialog seems over.
Thank you Paul
Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
"I just added that." This is great. So now I can see which of my comments are getting voted up/down and so have feedback for my writing, but I have to vote other comments up or down based on content (and author sometimes I guess).
Just curious... why author? Why not just content?
"Just curious... why author? Why not just content?"
Oh i was just referring to the "vote pg up anyway" trend.
If the author is someone you know (and I've made many friends from YC) there is a minor incentive to upvote a comment even if it doesn't read well because you know the person and can guess at what he was trying to say. So instead of judge(content), the subroutine becomes judge(content, person). It sort of feels like "voice tone" is added to a comment if you know the person. The "tone" and (perceived) intent with which something is said makes a huge difference
This could lead to a known troll getting a downvote and a known "good guy" getting an upvote for the same comment.
And that is probably a good thing.
Re: Experiment: No Comment Scores
#70Weird suggestion: now hide the contributor too, avoiding the "vote pg up anyway"category of upvotes. Then there's just a list of comments and one can vote them up or down on the content of the comment. Ok I did say it was weird. EDIT: Some great counterpoints below. I agree with them. This is a bad idea.
It would be a little difficult to have an exchange with someone (fairly common in threaded discussion) if you can't tell who is who. Also invites abuse - I reply to your comment, someone replies to my reply, pretending to be you.