Or, you can listen to real, really great music from underground labels on SC and never worry about Universal. Kappa.
Unless universal flags music they don't own.
Soundcloud Releases New App, Allows Universal to Flag Your Account
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Re: Soundcloud Releases New App, Allows Universal to Flag Your Account
#62I don't understand the problem, I guess. You can't profit from other people's copyrighted material without their permission. That's just how copyright works. And they can grant or deny that parmission. Get a license or use something else. And don't complain that they're being "unfair" by taking your stuff down and not telling you what infringed. If you didn't upload/sample/perform other people's stuff, you wouldn't n…
Nobody on SoundCloud is profiting from other people's copyright works as well, at least not through that service. To date there's no royalty or revenue sharing model for artists there. Should every DJ who's ever performed be subject to takedown requests because they play other people's music publicly?
Actually, the DJs kinda do need a license. The venues they perform at often have a BMI or ASCAP license so they don't have to.
But I was DJing at a place that didn't have one. Employer got sued and had to pay up.
1976 copyright act says "no public performance." This is actually what they cited in the Aereo case too.
Re: Soundcloud Releases New App, Allows Universal to Flag Your Account
#63I don't understand the problem, I guess. You can't profit from other people's copyrighted material without their permission. That's just how copyright works. And they can grant or deny that parmission. Get a license or use something else. And don't complain that they're being "unfair" by taking your stuff down and not telling you what infringed. If you didn't upload/sample/perform other people's stuff, you wouldn't n…
So many downvotes, and yet, I never said I was in favor of the practice. It's just the way the laws work. You can work to get them changed or you can ignore them, but if you ignore them, don't cry on the Internet that you got your stuff taken down.
Re: Soundcloud Releases New App, Allows Universal to Flag Your Account
#64I don't understand the problem, I guess. You can't profit from other people's copyrighted material without their permission. That's just how copyright works. And they can grant or deny that parmission. Get a license or use something else. And don't complain that they're being "unfair" by taking your stuff down and not telling you what infringed. If you didn't upload/sample/perform other people's stuff, you wouldn't n…
Building upon the cultural contributions of our past is how all of human civilization was built. Until the late twentieth century. Disney (for instance) strips our culture like a jackal, yet buys senators (such as Ernest Frederick "Fritz" Hollings) to subvert the law so they can keep it a one-way flow. To allow a few to subvert all of human existence for their personal gain is obscene.
I understand that's how culture works. But I'm talking about the fact that because of Disney, this is now how it works, and it should not be surprising that this is happening.
There's a big difference between "how it should be" and "how it actually is."
Re: Soundcloud Releases New App, Allows Universal to Flag Your Account
#65I don't understand the problem, I guess. You can't profit from other people's copyrighted material without their permission. That's just how copyright works. And they can grant or deny that parmission. Get a license or use something else. And don't complain that they're being "unfair" by taking your stuff down and not telling you what infringed. If you didn't upload/sample/perform other people's stuff, you wouldn't n…
> You can't profit from other people's copyrighted material without their permission. That's just how copyright works. Sure you can. "Fair use" is the most common example of that, but you don't need to make a fair use defense in order to find examples of people profiting off of others' copyrighted works legitimately. In fact, it should be noted that a lot of famous songs you probably know are themselves based on copy…
I've been making music with my computer since 1999, and when I was young and dumb I made some remixes using some James Brown samples. I used a sample from "The Payback" which you'll hear in TONS of songs.
Didn't get it cleared.
Got a C&D and my website got taken down.
I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying that if you don't clear your samples, and you're a little guy, this will happen. Don't be surprised when it does.
Re: Soundcloud Releases New App, Allows Universal to Flag Your Account
#66I don't understand the problem, I guess. You can't profit from other people's copyrighted material without their permission. That's just how copyright works. And they can grant or deny that parmission. Get a license or use something else. And don't complain that they're being "unfair" by taking your stuff down and not telling you what infringed. If you didn't upload/sample/perform other people's stuff, you wouldn't n…
So many downvotes, and yet, I never said I was in favor of the practice. It's just the way the laws work. You can work to get them changed or you can ignore them, but if you ignore them, don't cry on the Internet that you got your stuff taken down.
Plenty of civil disobedience is of the form of ignore bad laws and complain loudly when they are enforced.
This is without passing comment on whether copyright infringement is terrorism or freedom fighting.
Re: Soundcloud Releases New App, Allows Universal to Flag Your Account
#67So SoundCloud users had a good run, but now the popularity of the service reached critical mass and raised the ire of the labels so they're knuckling under like every other provider. SoundCloud (sensibly) doesn't want the burden of dealing with the massive copyright infringement by it's users and outsources the job to the owners of the tracks. Now I get that it sucks that you don't get explicit explanations of what i…
You've much more more faith in Universal respecting fair use than I have.
Re: Soundcloud Releases New App, Allows Universal to Flag Your Account
#68So SoundCloud users had a good run, but now the popularity of the service reached critical mass and raised the ire of the labels so they're knuckling under like every other provider. SoundCloud (sensibly) doesn't want the burden of dealing with the massive copyright infringement by it's users and outsources the job to the owners of the tracks. Now I get that it sucks that you don't get explicit explanations of what i…
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Re: Soundcloud Releases New App, Allows Universal to Flag Your Account
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apparently they've had similar issues on Mixcloud: https://twitter.com/J0EKAY/status/484097294598275072 And even if hip hop/trap/neo-soul/etc aren't your style, if you're into any electronic music at all there's probably something for you on Rinse.fm (unfortunately they're more an internet radio station than a platform like Soundcloud, not exactly apples to apples from a user perspective).
If you're interested in the history of Rinse.fm, check out this article: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2011/aug/27/rinse-fm-geeneu... Real Pirate radio for the last twenty years.
Rinse has an FM license now, so they've gone from pirate to legit. It was funny listening to the DJs trying to curb their swearing (50 pound fine per naughty word) in the weeks after they were licensed.
Re: Soundcloud Releases New App, Allows Universal to Flag Your Account
#70Why have we, as a society, become OK with handing over policing power to corporations unrestrained by due process? For example, by using sites like Soundcloud. Is it the lack of civics education in high school?
I think it simply comes down to convenience.